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U.S. must catch Saddam — and soon, Clark says
USA Today ^ | November 16, 2003 | Susan Page

Posted on 11/16/2003 9:42:45 PM PST by HAL9000

WASHINGTON — Retired general Wesley Clark warned Sunday that the failure to capture Saddam Hussein was likely to undermine any new Iraqi government. And he said it was important to capture Saddam alive so he could be tried for war crimes.

Clark's comments, at a session with USA TODAY and Gannett News Service reporters and editors, came as the Bush administration was accelerating the turnover of civilian authority to Iraqis. Clark praised the decision as a move "in the right direction" but said no regime was likely to succeed if Saddam stayed on the lam.

"It's going to be very hard for the United States to turn the problem over to the Iraqis if Saddam is still there as the, we might say, illegitimate ruler," said Clark, a Democratic presidential contender. "It's going to make it very hard for an Iraqi government to survive." The Bush administration, under fire for a growing toll of U.S. casualties, agreed this weekend to turn over political control by July 1, regardless of Saddam's whereabouts.

Clark also announced that he would go to the Netherlands next month to testify at the United Nations war-crimes trial of Slobodan Milosevic, the former Yugoslav president. As supreme allied commander of NATO, Clark led a 78-day bombing campaign in 1999 to expel Yugoslav forces that were brutalizing ethnic Albanians in Kosovo, a province of Serbia.

Clark said capturing Saddam should be "a high priority," though administration officials now downplay the search for him. An audiotape purportedly by the ousted Iraqi leader was aired on Arab TV on Sunday. It exhorted Iraqis to wage war against U.S. forces.

Saddam's ability to elude the United States has been an embarrassment for the Bush administration. In the war's early days, President Bush vowed that Saddam would be caught "dead or alive."

Paul Bremer, U.S. administrator of Iraq, said on Fox News Sunday that Saddam should be killed. "The fact that he's still alive and on the loose gives the ability of people around him to hold open the idea that the Baathists will come back," He said, referring to Saddam's party. "So it is important to kill him."

Clark said it was important to catch him alive: "I would hate to see us bust into a bunker and not be able to bring him out alive to stand trial. One of the things you really want to establish is rule of law. It's the essence of peacekeeping and stability operations."

For the same reason, he said, the United States should have participated in the International Criminal Court. The Bush administration has refused for fear that U.S. forces would be subject to politically motivated prosecution.

Clark said he hadn't seen the evidence of Saddam's war crimes, a comment that prompted adviser Chris Lehane to slip him a folded note. "You should make clear that Saddam is a bad guy," the note read. Clark glanced at the note but didn't return to the topic.

Clark has been at or near the top of national polls since he entered the race in September. However, he trails in Iowa and New Hampshire, where the first contests will be held, and his missteps have raised questions about his campaign. He is trying to regain momentum with a $1.1 million, two-month TV ad campaign in New Hampshire. The ads highlight his military career.

Clark, 58, fielded questions for more than an hour. He was most passionate in defending his decision to push for U.S. military action against ethnic cleansing in Kosovo. He says debate over that action accounts for criticism leveled at him by William Cohen, who was Defense secretary at the time, and Hugh Shelton, who was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

"I don't think Secretary Cohen or the Pentagon fully appreciated what was going on," he said. Cohen moved to cut short Clark's tenure at NATO. Shelton has said Clark's early departure "had to do with integrity and character issues."

"There was never any integrity or character issue there," Clark said. "This was just a policy dispute that people let get personal."

At one point, tears welled in his eyes as he leafed through a book of photographs he had brought of the conflict in Kosovo. He displayed pictures of a Serb soldier kicking a woman lying on the street and of a 5-day-old baby who had died of exposure in the mountains, where her family had fled.

"This is the pornography of violence," he said. He noted that the United States didn't act to stop a bloody civil war in Rwanda. "We dillied and we dallied," he said. "I said I never would let something like that happen again."



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brilliantactician; clark; grandstrategy; masterplan; newidea; saddamhussein; wesleyclark
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1 posted on 11/16/2003 9:42:46 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
I think he'll be captured alive.
2 posted on 11/16/2003 9:43:47 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: HAL9000; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart
You can't make this stuff up.

Clark said he hadn't seen the evidence of Saddam's war crimes, a comment that prompted adviser Chris Lehane to slip him a folded note. "You should make clear that Saddam is a bad guy," the note read. Clark glanced at the note but didn't return to the topic.

3 posted on 11/16/2003 9:45:35 PM PST by dighton
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To: HAL9000
Empty man with a head of straw.
4 posted on 11/16/2003 9:48:51 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: HAL9000
One thing's for sure -- we have a far better chance of catching Saddam than Clark has of catching Dean.
5 posted on 11/16/2003 9:49:48 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Wow, you can see how he draws on years of experience to come up with the plan "We should catch this Sadaam guy"

I think maybe I could be a general too.

6 posted on 11/16/2003 9:53:46 PM PST by HarryCaul
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To: #3Fan
When we catch Saddam, there will be more holes in him than in your average cheese grater. No way will he be allowed to become a martyr for the liberals. Kill him, then kill him again, just to be sure. Then kill him one more time for Scott Speicher. Then kill him again for the mass graves. Then take his pulse and kill him one more time for spite.
7 posted on 11/16/2003 9:55:46 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: HarryCaul
And the perfumed prince was 1st in his class at West Point, too. Standards have evidently changed over there since in the last half century, and I'd imagine leadership qualities take a backseat.
8 posted on 11/16/2003 9:59:19 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: HAL9000
Of course we need to get him (duh), but dead or alive doesn't really matter that much, although more or less in one piece and recognizable does.
9 posted on 11/16/2003 10:02:39 PM PST by squidly
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To: Pukin Dog
When we catch Saddam, there will be more holes in him than in your average cheese grater. No way will he be allowed to become a martyr for the liberals. Kill him, then kill him again, just to be sure. Then kill him one more time for Scott Speicher. Then kill him again for the mass graves. Then take his pulse and kill him one more time for spite.

Sounds good to me but Saddam knows that he can be more trouble alive for Bush than dead, and when backed into a corner will make sure he's in a position to be taken alive. Just a little prediction. I could be wrong.

10 posted on 11/16/2003 10:03:04 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: HAL9000
I would expect that Saddam (and maybe bin Laden) will turn up caught (or their remains will be "found") around the middle of the campaign season if the Bush people are smart. And the Bush people are smart.
11 posted on 11/16/2003 10:06:39 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: #3Fan
I am confident that when Saddam surrenders, someone will shoot him in the head, then say, "What did he say? I didnt hear him through all the gunfire".
12 posted on 11/16/2003 10:08:39 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Yeah, I expect Saddam will die by his own hand during a raid. He will be found in a small office with a computer chock full of terrorist attack plans and child pornography. His pants will be down. And there will be a half-eaten ham sandwich next to his keyboard.
13 posted on 11/16/2003 10:10:34 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Pukin Dog
lol Could be. I'd be tempted.
14 posted on 11/16/2003 10:10:53 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
Saddam knows that he can be more trouble alive for Bush than dead, and when backed into a corner will make sure he's in a position to be taken alive.

Agree to anything for his surrender. Interrogate him. Get a videotaped confession. Behead him and put his head on a pike in the center of Baghdad and the rest of his remains dumped on the French ambassador's doorstep. Just for the heck of it, give France 24 hours to surrender. Then refuse to accept it because they're too irrelevant to matter. Withdraw all dipomatic recognition of France as a sovereign state and tell the Germans they can have Paris if they want it. :-)

15 posted on 11/16/2003 10:10:55 PM PST by Young Rhino
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To: Lancey Howard
Make it a BLT, and the child porn GAY.
16 posted on 11/16/2003 10:11:45 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: HAL9000
How about, "Clark must capture Saddam--and soon, or else he has even less chance of being elected." Personally, I like the sound of it.
17 posted on 11/16/2003 10:13:09 PM PST by Terpfen
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To: HAL9000
U.S. must catch Saddam — and soon, Clark says

Hey! I've got a great idea. Let's send Saudi commandos in to catch Saddam.

Whadda ya think? Huh? Huh?

18 posted on 11/16/2003 10:13:40 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Pukin Dog
Okay. And we can always throw in some "barnyard sexcapades", too. With pigs.
19 posted on 11/16/2003 10:13:52 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Young Rhino
lol Sounds good!
20 posted on 11/16/2003 10:16:30 PM PST by #3Fan
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