Pope condemns (Israel's) security fence

The Jerusalem Post ^ | 16 November 2003 | JPOST.COM STAFF

[anotherview]

Nov. 16, 2003
Pope condemns security fence
By JPOST.COM STAFF

Pope John Paul II condemned Israel's security fence as a new obstacle to peace in the region. "The Holy Land needs bridges, not walls," the BBC reported him saying.

[anotherview]

I notice the Holy Father did not give any suggestions as to how such "bridges" could be built or how Israel should protect it's citizens.

[trebb]

Not only no alternate answer, it's hard to validate a single quote which may or may not be out of context. Hardly a condemnation without surounding facts/info.

[Print]

Misguided old man he is.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Pope J.P. II, doesn't have to live there.

Isn't there a wall around the Vatican?

[river rat]

"The Holy Land needs bridges, not walls..."

Yes, and people in hell need ice water........SO?

Semper Fi

[Print]

"Isn't there a wall around the Vatican? "

Good point.

I've visited Vatican few years back, and I can tell you, that wall is humongous.

[Torie]

Has the pope ever condemned Arab violence ever, anywhere? Just curious. What did he say about 9-11?

[F.J. Mitchell]

Thanks. I have never been there, but on TV it always looked to be walled.

[umgud]

The Pope doesn't have Muslim suicide bombers striking within the Vatican.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Not yet anyway.

[Torie]

The Pope's real problem is that he harbors I suspect the soft bigotry of low expectations when it comes to non-Western cultures. Either that, or Church politics tends to trump moral concerns of a more universal nature.

[bereanway]

Just give em a little more time. I'm certain they have designs.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

"Pope John Paul II condemned Israel's security fence as a new obstacle to peace in the region."

I say old boy, if fences are bad, why do you tool around in that bullet proof Pope-mobil?

[newwahoo]

Bingo. He should trade it in for JFK's old limo if barriers are so offensive to him.

[tiamat]

Because somebody took a pot-shot at him 20 or so years back.

Tia

[Bobby777]

well-said ...

[newwahoo]

"Because somebody took a pot-shot at him 20 or so years back."

Thats exactly why they need the fence. "People" are taking pot-shots at them every day, not once every twenty years. Let him take down his barrier first.

[Bobby777]

FReepmail me if you'd like to be on or off this ping list ...

[Torie]

  
Mending Wall 
  
SOMETHING there is that doesn't love a wall,   
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,   
And spills the upper boulders in the sun;   
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.   
The work of hunters is another thing:         
I have come after them and made repair   
Where they have left not one stone on stone,   
But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,   
To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,   
No one has seen them made or heard them made,   
But at spring mending-time we find them there.   
I let my neighbor know beyond the hill;   
And on a day we meet to walk the line   
And set the wall between us once again.   
We keep the wall between us as we go.   
To each the boulders that have fallen to each.   
And some are loaves and some so nearly balls   
We have to use a spell to make them balance:   
"Stay where you are until our backs are turned!"   
We wear our fingers rough with handling them.   
Oh, just another kind of outdoor game,   
One on a side. It comes to little more:   
He is all pine and I am apple-orchard.   
My apple trees will never get across   
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.    
He only says, "Good fences make good neighbors."   
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder   
If I could put a notion in his head:   
"Why do they make good neighbors? Isn't it   
Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.   
Before I built a wall I'd ask to know   
What I was walling in or walling out,   
And to whom I was like to give offence.   
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,   
That wants it down!" I could say "Elves" to him,    
But it's not elves exactly, and I'd rather   
He said it for himself. I see him there,   
Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top   
In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.   
He moves in darkness as it seems to me,   
Not of woods only and the shade of trees.   
He will not go behind his father's saying,   
And he likes having thought of it so well   
He says again, "Good fences make good neighbors."   

Robert Frost
  

[Mr. Mojo]

Isn't there a wall around the Vatican?

Mr. Wojtyla, tear down this wall!