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Gloomy French offered grim reading on nation's decline (Schadenfrog Alert!)
AFP via EUBusiness.com ^ | 16 November 2003

Posted on 11/16/2003 4:51:49 AM PST by Stultis

Unemployment is at 10 percent and rising; the national debt has doubled in eight years to 1,000 billion euros; the country has fallen to tenth position in the European Union for income per head of population.

More than 20 percent of the electorate say they may vote for the revolutionary far-left; in last year's presidential election a similar number chose the xenophobic far-right; a centre-right government elected to carry out major structural reform has done no more than tinker with the pension system.

Internationally the country has ruptured its relations with the world's only superpower, marginalised the United Nations, and by its arrogance towards the countries of the former communist bloc created a glaring rift through the heart of Europe just at the moment of its unification.

Discounting cliche-ridden one-offs like "Amelie Poulain," there has not been a film scene of world significance for a quarter of a century, and the same is true in literature and the visual arts. The country's last Nobel prize in the sciences was in 1997 -- and that was the first in years.

In short the French mission to be a light unto the world has failed. The Anglo-Saxons are taking over and without urgent -- and possibly violent -- shock treatment, the nation that invented human rights, cheese and Charles de Gaulle is headed for oblivion.

Such is the diet of gloom that has nourished the French public in recent weeks, as a series of books on the country's supposed decline sparks a bout of self-flagellation reminiscent of the last epidemic of "morosity" that swept the land in the mid 1990s.

Leading the alarmists is right-wing historian Nicolas Baverez whose book "France in Collapse" gives the starkest diagnosis of the country's predicament. Other titles in the vogue include "French Arrogance" by Emmenuel Saint-Martin, "France in Disarray" by Alain Duhamel, and "Farewell to a Disappearing France," by Jean-Marie Rouart.

According to Baverez, France's chronic inability to reform itself means that it is now facing the challenges of a post-Cold War, post-September 11, globalised 21st century with systems and habits of mind conditioned by events more than 25 years ago.

"The nuclear deterrent, a strong euro, French-style public services, the 'cultural exception' -- all these have been put up like some ridiculous Maginot Line against the world's upheavals. This refusal to change... is now plunging France into decline," Baverez writes.

Drawing unflattering comparisons with Britain, where the unemployment rate is now under five percent and there are a million more small businesses, he says that the Socialists' 35-hour week has increased costs to the point that 20 percent of the manual workforce is now priced out of the market.

And quoting de Gaulle who said, "France can only carry out reforms via revolutions," Baverez warns that failure to confront the country's entrenched vested interests will lead to economic breakdown, the advance of the far-right and "the accelerated radicalisation of social violence."

Baverez's book set off a heated debate in the media, with left-wing commentators decrying his obsession with the Anglo-Saxon yardstick and others arguing that for all its faults life in France was not after all quite so bad.

But his thesis won at least partial backing from abroad when Paris Match magazine this week commissioned 12 well-known international figures -- all well-disposed to France -- to give their views on the national "decline."

"It is in cultural life that France's amour-propre has been most grievously wounded. The reservoir of international-level genius has mysteriously dried up -- in every art-form," wrote the British novelist and academic David Lodge.

Peruvian writer Mario Vargas Llosa dwelt nostalgically on his memories of the vibrant Paris scene of the 1950s, then lamented what he said was the country's growing introversion.

"If there is a sickness in France it is nationalism. It has found a place at every social and political level... But this defence of identity, this idea of the 'cultural exception' which is so widespread is totally provincial. For me it is the negation, the death of universalism," he wrote.

All 12 writers expressed tender feelings for France, but agreed that much is wrong. According to Dmitry Nabokov, son of the late Russian-born author Vladimir, "France -- alas! -- is a microcosm of Europe's dissatisfaction and pessimism."


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: france; french; oldeurope; schadenfrog
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To: Stultis
...the nation that invented human rights, cheese and Charles de Gaulle is headed for oblivion.

Not only did the French invent cowardice, they own the patent for it as well. The cheese-eating surrender frogs are going down in flames. Good riddance.

21 posted on 11/16/2003 7:07:51 AM PST by rickmichaels (God bless America, land that I love.)
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To: Agnes Heep
the nation that invented human rights,

Was that before or after the French Terror?

22 posted on 11/16/2003 7:10:20 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Stultis
I was in Southern France this summer during the European heat wave on a wonderful pilgrimage to Lourdes. The people were OK, the food was great but tres expensive, but there was indeed a profound uneasiness among the people.

One odd thing: by 9PM in France you cannot find a human... they disappear into a tranquillizer/TV induced coma behind closed doors. You can drive all night and not see a single human, no gas stations, nothing. Just endless ghost villages from 9PM onwards.

Over the border in ally Spain, at 9PM the party is just getting started! An amazing change occurs when you cross the mountain passes.

23 posted on 11/16/2003 7:11:27 AM PST by friendly (Man is so made that whenever anything fires his soul, impossibilities vanish.)
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To: Stultis
MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE OF FRANCE: Follow the leadership of the American Heartland--a bastion of ascendancy, energy, freedom, and the best of Western Civilization--and of President Bush!

It will lead to ascendancy, energy, optimism, self-confidence, renewed liberty, clarity, and renaissance!

Vive la France! Vive les Etats-Unis! Vive la liberté! Vive la résistance!

"There is no substitute for strategic and moral clarity."

24 posted on 11/16/2003 7:18:04 AM PST by Savage Beast (This is the choice: confrontation or capitulation. Appeasement is capitulation.)
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To: Stultis
that's pretty sad assessment

if we have 10% unemployment rate and just 0.4% gdp last qtr, plus the tax rates - we prolly will go onto riots in the streets -

it is a stunning comparison between the USA and FRance - we have 6% unemployment rate and dropping, a 7.2 to 7.7% gdp last qtr and a 11-Trillion economy vs the frenchies' 105 UE rate and just 0.4% gdp in the same qtr - dang

one thing on France tho, if the Frenchies are smart, instead of blocking or balking the USA in the UN with regards to the Iraqi issue, they could have offer "real" help to the USA in exchange for some of their demands - say they offer 30,000 troops and 2 billion dollars of grant immediately if the USA agree upon on a unified UN resolution on Iraq - then I think no matter how displease Rummy or Cheney maybe on the UN, they would be over-ride by Bush on this issue - but no, the French just complain, either block or balk on talks, offer no material help, then why should the USA listen to their demands in the UN - at the end the UN was marginalized, and there goes the final stage for France that has any real world influence.

jmho.
25 posted on 11/16/2003 7:22:43 AM PST by FRgal4u
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To: rickmichaels
Not only did the French invent cowardice, they own the patent for it as well.

Exactly. They try to explain away their cowardly actions by saying they do what they do not because they are cowards, but because they are "enlightened," What a crock.

26 posted on 11/16/2003 7:28:07 AM PST by RedWhiteBlue
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To: Stultis


Paris 2028
27 posted on 11/16/2003 7:28:40 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Stultis
Well, Saddam is out of a job. The Fr*nch love him so much. And, he did make the trains run on time, in Iraq. If they are willing to put up with a little murder, rape, torture, and corruption, they can make him a citizen and elect him as leader.
28 posted on 11/16/2003 8:13:25 AM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: Stultis
And in America, we hope they continue the trend. The world needs an inept, weak, corrupt nation of France. To make the world a safer place.

Whoops. They are already inept, weak and corrupt. Never mind.
29 posted on 11/16/2003 8:23:57 AM PST by Beck_isright (Socialists are like cockroaches. No matter how many die, 300 more are born under every cowpile.)
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To: Stultis
SchadenFROG

LOL (at FreeRepublic you get to read some of the funniest things.)

30 posted on 11/16/2003 8:56:20 AM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: jimbo123
DOES anyone know how many muslimes are there ?I would like to see a percentage rate for FRANCE AND ENGLAND, I believe both of those countries are in big trouble because of their immigration laws, and we are not to far behind them.
31 posted on 11/16/2003 9:36:34 AM PST by douglas1
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To: douglas1
there are 15 million muslims in the current EU countries (pop total is about 300 million, some what close to the USA's) - there are about 5 million muslims in this country

out of the 15 million, 10 million are in France & Germany - current est. if the # of Muslims in France is between 5 to 7 million; in Great Britain, there are 2 million muslims

umlike the USA where we have modest population growth due to immigration, younger population, EU countries is facing overall population decline; but wait, the EU muslim population will double by 2015 with the non-muslims decline by about 3 to 4% then..

bottomline - the euro-muslims are gainning clout in both France and Germany.
32 posted on 11/16/2003 9:50:43 AM PST by FRgal4u
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To: Stultis
The nation is declining? Oh non, Mon Dieux....so sad.
33 posted on 11/16/2003 10:05:58 AM PST by Chantal
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