Judge Roy Moore: No Regrets (Information on his upcoming announcement)

CBN ^ | 11/14/2003 | CBN news

[4CJ]

Kudos to Justice Moore - I wish we had a thosand like him. He UNDERSTANDS the law, and it's moral foundation.

[RJCogburn]

No More Justice Moore

Sunday, November 16, 2003; Page B06


THERE HAS BEEN little ennobling in the saga of Alabama Chief Justice Roy S. Moore -- until last week, when a unanimous judicial disciplinary court removed him from his job. Mr. Moore is a demagogue who has made a judicial career not in his performance in the courts but in his unconstitutional decoration of them. Most recently, he gained national attention when he installed a huge granite monument to the Ten Commandments in the Alabama Supreme Court building and then defied a federal court order to remove the obvious violation of the First Amendment's separation of church and state.



Time was -- and it wasn't that long ago -- a state court official in the deep South who openly thumbed his nose at the federal Constitution could have expected sympathy from his colleagues. But fortunately times have changed, as the nine judges who took Mr. Moore's job away made clear. "Chief Justice Moore not only willfully and publicly defied the orders of a United States district court, but . . . he also gave the court no assurances that he would follow . . . any similar order in the future," they wrote. "Under these circumstances, there is no penalty short of removal from office that would resolve this issue."

Excerpted.........http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43066-2003Nov14.html

[Mulder]

Moore appears to be a Patriot and a man of integrity. Futhermore, he made frequent references to the US Constitution.

As such, he was targeted for removal by the elitist meglomaniacs that run this country.

Hopefully, the people of Alabama will see fit to return him to office.

[Captainpaintball]

Dear ACLU:

Congratulations, comrades! You've won again! Thanks to you, Judge Roy Moore’s Ten Commandments monument was removed from the State Courthouse in Alabama. Removing him from office this week was a nice touch as well. However, these were but the first steps in a logical, necessary progression to eliminate the influence of God from all vestiges of American society! Your work is far from over! The next step is to remove the words "In God We Trust" from our currency, so not to “offend” the atheists worried the phrase is another "establishment of religion."

Then you must work to remove the 10 Commandments etched in marble above the Supreme Court's bench. Fear not, my brothers and sisters, you have 5 or 6 fellow travelers, I mean, judges (ahem!) on that court (including one former fellow ACLU director) who are more than sympathetic to your cause.

After that victory, you must continue the struggle! Don't rest on your laurels; there is more work to be done! Think of all the federal monuments, statues, landmarks, and memorials all across the fruited plain that mention God--they must be removed. Some can be "repaired" by jackhammering or covering the “offensive” speech. Other, more politically incorrect examples (To be determined by those with similar politics to yours, of course) can be removed altogether!

You can expect some resistance, but don't fear! Those Christians have no staying power, and they will fold like cheap tents when you scream "Intolerant!" "bigot!" "homophobe!"... and all the other words you learned in your university/law school training. And I know some of you may be asking yourself "Aren't the 10 Commandments the fundamental basis of the Jewish religion as well?" That may be true, but you can easily defuse that situation by bringing up the upcoming Mel Gibson movie, even though it hasn’t come out yet. Remember, the ends justify the means. You cannot allow the Jews and Christians to unite on this issue--keep them separated by scare tactics, stereotypes, and visions of "bible-thumping," "fire and brimstone" backwoods preachers. Our friends in the media will help you here.

The next logical steps would be to bar churches from providing "Sunday school" sessions in public school buildings, and to end the US Postal Service's shameful practice of offering Christmas-themed stamps. If you really want a challenge, work on covering up or breaking off the crosses in our national cemeteries.

Your friends in elementary and secondary schools and state-run universities will become more determined than ever to further the already invaluable progress they have made in secularizing the legions of dumbed-down children entrusted to them. They will continue to neglect teaching our nation’s history, traditions, concepts, and origins—and how God played a central role in each of those cases. When our children fail to learn the past, they fail to correctly judge the future.

You may think this would be the moment to pop open those champagne bottles, but wait! Put down that bottle opener. You haven't even scratched the surface!

The next step is to remove Christianity from the PRIVATE sector! Just think...the possibilities are endless! Get creative!

After chiseling religious scripture and symbols from church buildings, (sparing the eyes of those looking for every opportunity to be offended) after pressuring jewelry retailers from offering crosses and crucifixes in their catalogs, (relegating such offensive items to be special ordered, or kept wrapped up in the back of the store, to “protect” the “innocent” shopper) you can then ban outdoor nativity scenes from businesses and even homes.

While it is true that Dennis Miller was correct in saying that although those of you in the ACLU are AGAINST citizens and organizations from constructing nativity scenes, but are FOR the right of a drunk pervert to stumble into one and have sex with the sheep, so what? The people must be made to understand that we, as humans, possess ‘diverse’ sexual persuasions. That’s why you support NAMBLA and child pornography in public libraries!

Boycotting candy makers and greeting card companies that make Christmas and Easter-themed products would help, too. Our friends in Hollywood would get the message--No more Christmas and Easter specials! Expect some religious groups and concerned citizens to fight back. Fine, bring ‘em on! They have jobs, families, sports, American Idol and their own complacency to deal with!

That’s when you take the final step, move in for the kill, and use our friends in the courts to abolish religion altogether and make America secular and socialist—The way the ACLU founder, and communist, Roger Baldwin would have wanted it!

For example, we can “prove” in courts of law that the Bible is “hate speech!” and “offensive” to certain groups. This argument has already seen success in Europe and Canada. Why not here?

The belief in God is dangerous. It goes against everything a good socialist and/or atheist lives and breathes for. A good socialist and/or atheist does not believe in God In The Highest. A good socialist and/or atheist believes man, (specifically, the State) is the highest power. Separating God from our laws is an important first step on the road to an all-powerful, all-encompassing State. Just call yourselves “patriots,” wrap yourselves in the flag, and you’ll be fine. Heed the words of your founder:

"Do steer away from making it [the ACLU] look like a socialist enterprise. We want to look like patriots in every thing we do. We want to get a lot of flags, talk a good deal about the Constitution and what our forefathers wanted to make of the country and show we are really the folks that stand by the spirit of our institutions."

Day by day, bit by bit, stone tablet by stone tablet, you “patriots” get closer to living your dream. Pardon the pun, but I wish you…Godspeed!

[tdadams]

"The only purpose of the First Amendment is to allow the acknowledgement of God."

For all of you who have rallied to Judge Moore's defense, do you agree with and support this statement of his? If this doesn't make you question his fitness for the bench, you have a very narrow view of what America and the First Amendment stands for and protects.

I've long been suspicious that this man is nothing more than an egotistical, self-aggrandizing huskster. He can't even give a straight answer to a friendly interviewer when asked where the Alabama constitution requires him to acknowledge God. It doesn't and he knows it.

He's making a name for himself to run for higher office and probably to sell a book. I'm surprised so many people here defend him unquestioningly, no matter how mendacious or self-serving. It would pay to be a little less credulous.

[tdadams]

ping

[sinkspur]

He's making a name for himself to run for higher office and probably to sell a book. I'm surprised so many people here defend him unquestioningly, no matter how mendacious or self-serving. It would pay to be a little less credulous.

Anytime somebody in public life says "God," some people think he's a saint, and ought to run for public office.

Moore has these dupes pegged. And, any state where juries think Exxon ought to pay $11.9 billion because, well, "they won't miss it" is full of the kind of dopes that would put a Roy Moore in the governor's office.

[xzins]

He answers above where his oath requires him to acknowledge God. This is his logic.

He says that he in fact did take an oath to uphold the Alabama constitution.

The Alabama constitution does in fact acknowledge God.

Therefore, to uphold the constitution he has to acknowledge God.

I can understand his logic, so I don't think his fault is very great at all.

I would say, instead, that he is compelled to acknowledge that the constitution acknowledges God.

[an amused spectator]

Presiding Judge William Thompson read from the ruling, "In defying that court's order, the Chief Justice placed himself above the law. No man in this country is so high that he is above the law."

Former president Bill Clinton and his wife, Senator Hillary Clinton, are both above the law. Senator Edward Kennedy is above the law.

Why do we have an ignorant judge presiding over the removal of another judge?

[sinkspur]

I would say, instead, that he is compelled to acknowledge that the constitution acknowledges God.

Does the Alabama constitution compel him to erect a two-ton monument to "acknowledge" the Judeo-Christian God, and no other?

[an amused spectator]

It would pay to be a little less credulous.

You could use a healthy dollop of your own advice.

[sinkspur]

Why do we have an ignorant judge presiding over the removal of another judge?

All eight Alabama Justices voted to remove Moore. Thompson just happened to be presiding.

[an amused spectator]

Presiding Judge William Thompson read from the ruling, "In defying that court's order, the Chief Justice placed himself above the law. No man in this country is so high that he is above the law."

Any judge that makes a statement like this is either ignorant, a liar, or both.

I was here during the impeachment wars, when the Clintons and their pet judges wiped their arses with "the law".

[an amused spectator]

All eight Alabama Justices voted to remove Moore. Thompson just happened to be presiding.

All the trained seals barked at once. I'm very impressed. Not.

[xzins]

My sense is that it's just a free speech issue. Let everyone speak his own mind and quit trying to control folks' religious opinions. It's a whole lot easier to just let people express themselves freely than trying to police every little thing that gets said or gets set up.

This chief justice will put up a stone monument with God words on it, the next will put up a statue of a greek goddess, and the next will stick up a guy with a fly fishing rod.

I think that's the intent of the 1st amendment. Just have the government butt out of religious discussions altogether.

They're a pain in the butt when you try to control them.

[sinkspur]

All the trained seals barked at once. I'm very impressed. Not.

Well, if they're trained seals, you're one of organ-grinder-Moore's monkeys, who jumps when he says "God."

This gold-plated charlatan knows suckers when he sees them.

[Ichneumon]

Kudos to Justice Moore - I wish we had a thosand like him. He UNDERSTANDS the law, and it's moral foundation.

Sorry, but no one who "UNDERSTANDS the law" would ever be able to say something as mind-bogglingly ignorant as, "The only purpose of the First Amendment is to allow the acknowledgement of God."

[sinkspur]

Just have the government butt out of religious discussions altogether.

Not in taxpayer-funded venues. Whether you like it or not, the establishment clause clearly applies here, as Moore was quite insistent that his view of God did NOT include the God of Muslims or Buddhists.

Can't do that.

[Ichneumon]

Any judge that makes a statement like this is either ignorant, a liar, or both. I was here during the impeachment wars, when the Clintons and their pet judges wiped their arses with "the law".

He's neither, since his statement is correct. The fact that the Senate shirked their duty doesn't make Clinton, or anyone else, above the law. The law *does* apply to Clinton, even if the Senate is too cowardly (and the Democrats too partisan) to apply it.