"IMMINENT" --- here are the exact words used by President Bush

whitehouse.gov | Jan 28, 2003 | Bush and speechwriters

[doug from upland]

At at time where the survival of our nation is dependent upon stopping the Islamist threat to our way of life, I am sicked at the spectacle that is the DemocRATic Party. Ted "Lifeguard" Kennedy said on the Sean Hannity Show that "we were told we would find nuclear weapons." That is bunk. The president never said that.

Other RATS have claimed that President Bush said the threat of attack with WMDs was imminent. No, he didn't say that either.

It is sometimes helpful to use a person's exact words. We have those words. Remember these words. Send them to you local newspaper and get them on talk radio.

"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."

[Matchett-PI]

Thank you.

Here's another telling (and damning to him because of the accusations he, and his DemocRAT friends have made against GWB) quote by Jay Rockefeller:

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.

[cksharks]

I have a frigging answer for you. Run for the office of the President and you can say any thing you want,when you want and what you want.

[Cacophonous]

You should read the entire thread - and my comments in their entirety, and in context. I think you would find little to object to.

[doug from upland]

These quotes need to be on billboards, or on protest signs in front of Rockefeller's office.

[Matchett-PI]

"..a snide tone does not help in that regard."

Thanks for the gratuitous, self-described, "constructive" advice.

By the way, do you realize that the EFFECTIVE Rush Limbaugh has been getting that same, "You know, Rush, it isn't so much what you say ... it's the way you say it" advice from Leftist Liberals for over 15 years? In his wisdom, he never took it because (like me) he knows liberals like the back of his hand.

Oh, and by the way, do you realize that GWB obtained a LOT of votes just based upon his snide comments and tone alone? Yeah, that's right.

And in future dictionaries, one of the Marxist DemocRAT media mouthpieces by the name of "CLYMER" will now be used as a slang word meaning "BIG TIME A$$HOLE", courtesy of the "snide" GWB and Dick Cheney. Hahahahaha

[Kay Soze]

Had the intelligence communities uncovered prior to 9/11 the plans to assemble a group to fly panes into the Pentagon and WTC the same argument would be made by the dims.

The separate instances of Arabs taking flying lessons, purchasing of FAA radios, flying on specific airlines and specific routes repeatedly , the final bye bye prayer documents, the owning of various manuals to planes,... blah blah blah .

None of those would have been convincing enough by demon-crats to go after Al Qeda and risk the lives of US servicemen either.

[PokeyJoe]

Since when has the Neanderthal Ted Kennedy cared about the truth?

Chappaquiddick?

[Cacophonous]

Oh please, I'm not trying to be critical. I thought the letter was fine.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

During the Vietnam war "issues" were raised everyday by the leftist anti-American "anti-war," political, and media crowd. They were weapons to attack and disrupt the administration and discredit the troops. There was no intent to debate. The intent was to build opposition to the war. Period.

Leftist ideologues know the President did not say those things. Some point to polls that show the public believes that Saddam was an imminent threat with WMDs, etc. and say that President Bush "used" the misconception and therefore he is a "liar." The left is not looking to debate. They are looking to destroy.

They will not quit even if Bush wins 520 to 17 electoral votes as Nixon did in 1972. They will not stop. They must be stopped. Radical Islam wants to destroy America. Our left wants to destroy Bush and hand over our sovereignty and military to international groups to "fight" the war. It's all the same war IMO.

I can only hope the left gets frustrated and turns to violence. The right and the apolitcal majority are in no mood for it. The left can then be stopped.

That's nuts you say? I have posted in the past proof that the Dems planned to stir race riots in order to pressure Bush to concede to Gore but Gore himself stopped them.

[Matchett-PI]

"These quotes need to be on billboards, or on protest signs in front of Rockefeller's office."

I agree.

Between Rockefeller and HillBilly, it's hard to choose which quotes are the most damning to those sociopathic liars:

HillBilly has publically condemned the Bush Administration for suggesting that there may be a connection between Saddam and al Qaeda.

Unfortunately for her, SHE is on the record for stating that connection as an actual FACT:

"...He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members."

"It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.

[PokeyJoe]

hey Doug, speaking of CLYMERs, take a look at this!

Click on Neanderthal Progressive Site Here

Thought you could use a laugh! =)

Notice that the socialist progressives will have a section devoted to "tactics"

[doug from upland]

I love the Tactics section. " Some are clever. Some are commonsense and some are downright despicable. Which ones you choose to use are up to you. One rule of thumb is to choose tactics based on your desire to appear as a 'likable' person."

Unfortunately, smelly, foul-mouth, screamers who destroy property and defecate in the street will find the task of being likable quite impossible.

[Matchett-PI]

Here's a statement I found while doing a google search last spring. It was made by a *New Jersey* DemocRAT over a year ago. Hahaha

October 10, 2002
Rothman Statement On Iraq Resolution
http://www.house.gov/rothman/news_releases/rel_101002.htm

Washington, DC - Congressman Steve Rothman (D-NJ9) today released the following statement regarding the Iraq resolution.

“On September 11, 2001, America’s view of the world changed. On that day, many Americans learned for the first time that there were people in the world who hated America so much, that they would cross the oceans to come here to kill thousands of American men, women, and children, even if it meant they would die themselves.

“In considering the resolution before us , I have weighed all the pros and cons, all the risks of action and the risks of inaction, with September 11th very much in my mind. I believe that any close question on matters of national security, must now be resolved in favor of erring on the side of being proactive and not reactive in protecting our people and our homeland.

“I have spent a tremendous amount of time and study over the past several months on what to do about Saddam Hussein. I have engaged in dialogue with many of my constituents, spoken with experts on every side of this issue, and read literally thousands of pages of analysis. I can delineate as well as any opponent of this resolution, all of the possible and considerable risks of military action against Saddam Hussein.

“However, in the end, I conclude beyond any reasonable doubt, that America must join forces with our allies, hopefully under the express authorization of the United Nations, but that we must take action to prevent Saddam Hussein from using his weapons of mass destruction against us.

“Now, especially in the light and shadow of September 11th, there is a new immediacy and power to Saddam Hussein’s longstanding and oft-stated threats against America.

For years, Saddam Hussein has been a well-known patron and financier of some of the world’s most lethal anti-American terrorists and terrorist organizations. Now, al Qaeda has joined him.

“After being driven from Afghanistan, al Qaeda has now sought and received safe-haven from Saddam Hussein. Saddam is now training al Qaeda in bomb-making and the manufacture and delivery of poisonous and deadly gases.

“We know that for years, al Qaeda has been trying to get their hands on chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons to use against America and Americans. The thought of Saddam Hussein now infecting willing al Qaeda “martyrs” with his smallpox virus and sending them into America’s major cities, causing hundreds of thousands of Americans to die of smallpox, is truly terrifying. The thought of Saddam Hussein sending these same al Qaeda “martyrs” to America to spray chemical or biological poisons over America’s reservoirs or in our most populated cities, is a thought so horrifying, yet so real a possibility, that I cannot in good conscience, especially after the surprise attack of September 11th, permit this to happen.

“I therefore endorse this resolution. I do so, however, with a heavy heart. I do so yet without any reasonable doubt that preventing Saddam Hussein from using weapons of mass destruction against us is necessary now if we are to avoid another 9/11 or worse.

“I pray that military action is not necessary and that alone, passage of this resolution will result in Saddam Hussein’s compliance with all existing U.N. resolutions to disarm and to permit unconditional inspections, but in the end that is Saddam Hussein’s choice.

“As we pass this resolution, let us pray for the safety of all Americans, including the brave men and women in our military, law enforcement, and all branches of government who are today protecting us here at home and in countries around the world, and who will be called upon to do so tomorrow or in the days ahead. God bless them, and God bless America.”

[doug from upland]

They can't hide from their world.

[Matchett-PI]

"Oh please, I'm not trying to be critical. I thought the letter was fine." ~ Cacophonous

Oh, good. Then you'll like the "tone" of this one, too, no doubt:

My email to viewerservices@msnbc.com on 8-29-03

Subject: MSNBC-Useful Idiots or Cynical Opportunists?

Greetings,

I provide, for your reading pleasure, just one more example, in a long list of succinct examples, of the way you choose to lie to, and mislead the American people when you *report* on events in Iraq.

This is another example of how you (wittingly or unwittingly, it makes no difference - result is the same) place yourselves directly in the camp of America's enemies (within and without), and encourage them to attack and murder Americans at home, and American and allied troops stationed in Iraq and elsewhere around the world by your never-ending "blame America first" rhetoric.

According to your current and past performance, it is blatantly obvious to all but the ones Karl Marx called "useful idiots", that you have thrown your "collective" lot in with those who want to appease our enemies.

The only question remaining to be answered is, do you do it as a result of [1] being credulous, incompetent, useful idiots yourselves, as a result of [2] being cynical opportunists, or -- as a result of [3] being both useful idiots AND cynical opportunists?

Here is the latest example of your laughable, predictable spin of events being contrasted with the truth:

At least 75 killed in Iraqi bombing
MSNBC.COM ^ | 8/29/03 | MSNBC NEWS SERVICES

NAJAF, Iraq, Aug. 29 — A massive car bomb Friday at Iraq’s holiest Shiite shrine killed 75 people, including one of the country’s most important Muslim clerics, Ayatollah Mohammed Baqir al-Hakim, the chief doctor at the city’s central hospital reported. He said a survey of all the city’s medical facilities indicated that 140 people were wounded, many seriously. ...

BLAMING THE U.S.
The leader of the Iraqi National Congress and Ahmad Chalabi, a member of the provisional Governing Council, blamed the United States in an interview on the al-Jazeera satellite television station for failing to provide security and said the bombing was the work of loyalists of Saddam who were trying to create sectarian discord.
Chalabi said he had been told of the death by the cleric’s brother Abdel-Aziz al-Hakim, a leader of the armed wing of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq and a fellow member of the U.S.-picked interim government.
Chalabi blamed the attack on the same group that carried out the suicide truck bombing Aug. 19 at the U.N. headquarters in Iraq, which killed at least 23 people and injured more than 100 others. He offered no evidence to support his claim. ....

Excerpted - click for full article ^
Source: http://www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?0cv=CA01
1 posted on 08/29/2003 12:19 PM EDT by Smogger
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/972789/posts

=== NOW - The Truth:

To: Smogger

"...Ahmad Chalabi, the head of the Iraqi National Congress and a Governing Council member, blamed Saddam, his remnants and his allies from across the border.

"We know they are active in trying to undermine the Governing Council and allies of the U.S.," he said in a telephone interview.

Chalabi denied an earlier report on Al-Jazeera alleging that he had said U.S. forces were to blame for the bombing because they had failed in their responsibility to keep the area secure.

No coalition troops were in the area of the mosque out of respect for the holy site, Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Jim Cassella said in Washington"

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20030829_718.html
9 posted on 08/29/2003 12:32 PM EDT by Pikamax
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/972789/posts?page=9#9

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To: Pikamax

"Chalabi denied an earlier report on Al-Jazeera alleging that he had said U.S. forces were to blame for the bombing because they had failed in their responsibility to keep the area secure."

Good find. Look how quick MSNBC was to report the Al Jazeera's negative spin.

10 posted on 08/29/2003 12:33 PM EDT by Smogger
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/972789/posts?page=10#10

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So as you can see, like the New York Times, et.al., your credibility is shot. How long can you last?

Warm regards,
[Name and Town]

[Delta 21]

Clinton, Albright, Berger, Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Bob Graham, Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, Jay Rockeffer, Henry Waxman, et al....

It looks to me that my C-in-C is about the only person who didnt say that he had WMD!

Great quotes!

Bush is following on of Reagans principles: You will be suprised how much you can get accomplished when you dont care who gets the credit.

Bush is doing it right!

[Matchett-PI]

More on the subject of the "imminent" threat.

My email to another DemocRAT mouthpiece, Juan Williams, at special@foxnews.com on 8-7-03:

Good evening, Juan

Tonight was the last "imminent" straw that broke the camel's back.

Please stop your continual misrepresention of what Bush plainly said in his State of the Union speech before the war.

Here is the "imminent" excerpt from President Bush's speech:

"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent.
Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike?"

As you can see, President Bush said exactly the OPPOSITE of what you said he said.

Please publically apologize to the TV audience for night after night misrepresenting what Bush plainly said, and quote his exact words (above) on the air, will you?

Thank you,
[Name and Town]

[Matchett-PI]

"They can't hide from their world." ~ doug from upland

My email to CNBC at squawk@cnbc.com on 5-12-03

Subject: Clinton / DemocRAT Grifters

Greetings:

Since 9-11, even their useful idiots know that it's NOT SAFE to vote DemocRAT.

I heard you say that a lot of the poll respondents said they would move to France if she [Hillary] ever became president.

It will be the other way around.

By the time the truth is told about who took pay-offs from Saddam for peddling his party-line, it will be the DemocRATS who will HAVE to move to France --- the only place they'll have any credibility left at all.

Marxist DemocRATS, Nader Greens, and Militant Islam are a clear and present danger to our freedoms.

[Name and Town]

[winker]

The President has a problem many of us especially at times here on Free Republic have; of people not carefully reading and understanding what was said. At that point "some" go off half cocked and half informed lacking a full grasp of what was communicated. No doubt some just reject out of hand what is spoken and care nothing about being factual; so he is not alone in dealing with "Truth Mongers", who intentionally go about spreading confusion. This is not new by any stretch;it just goes on and on!