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An End to Pop-ups? Advertisers Wince, Then Shrug
InternetNews.Com ^ | November 14, 2003 | Zachary Rodgers

Posted on 11/14/2003 9:07:50 PM PST by JoJo Gunn

Microsoft confirmed it intends to add pop-up blocking to Internet Explorer as part of its Service Pack 2 release, due the first half of 2004. Meanwhile, agencies, advertisers and publishers suggest they'll be ready to kiss the ad units goodbye -- when the time comes.

An important question that remains unanswered is whether IE pop-up blocking will be turned on by default. Microsoft said only that it plans to include the feature, and will gather user feedback before announcing further details.

"If they turn it on by default, that would effectively kill pop-up advertising on the Web," said Nate Elliott, an associate analyst with Jupiter Research, which shares a parent company with this site.

On the other hand, if blocking the ads is not the default setting, pop-ups will probably continue to be served. "Consumers already have plenty of access to pop-up blockers," Elliott said. "Nearly half of people online at home have free access through their ISPs," but only a small percentage are using them.

Pop-ups' share of the online media pie is more than double what it was a year ago. Nielsen//NetRatings found they accounted for 7.4 percent of all online ad impressions in Q3 2003, up from 3.0 percent for the same period last year.

Despite increased use, publishers and advertisers say they're unconcerned about the prospect of an end to pop-ups.

Jason Krebs, VP of ad sales for New York Times Digital (NYTD), said his company and the majority of online publishers would not be affected.

"I think this will continue to stimulate creative minds in the ad community to find quality ways to reach an audience and communicate with them," he said. "You can't stop technology and innovation, so you continue to adapt."

Krebs claims NYTD serves very few pop-ups compared to other content, and suggested good could come of their demise in that the company's ad offerings might be seen as "less of a commodity."

"The half-page ads were an attempt to get people to embrace quality," he said.

Rich LeFurgy, head of new media consultancy Archer, and co-chair of the Internet Advertising Bureau's (IAB) pop-up taskforce, concurs. "Rich media and search are the drivers of where we're going in the future."

LeFurgy, charged by the IAB with preparing publisher guidelines governing pop-up use, said he doesn't anticipate the end of pop-ups would have an impact on publishers' bottom lines.

"I don't think it's going to matter," he said. "Pop-ups are a part of the mix right now, but if they were to go away, I don't think it would impact the revenue outlook."

Jeff Lanctot, VP of Media for Avenue A, observes many publishers he has spoken with are singing the same tune.

"Pop-ups have been a good source of revenue for [publishers]," Lanctot said. "But most publishers I talk to feel pretty confident about the rest of the inventory they've got now. They're experiencing growth in high impact brand units and other on-page advertisements, and their need for pop-ups will diminish in 2004 and beyond."

Speaking from his agency's standpoint, Lanctot said there's even less cause for concern.

"A pretty small percentage of our media billings go to pop-ups. Over the past two years, it's been well under 10 percent," he claims. "If they went away tomorrow, we wouldn't miss a beat."

Other agencies and advertisers are similarly unruffled by Microsoft's announcement.

"I don't see it as a bad thing at all," said Sarah Faye, president of Carat Interactive. "A very low percentage of what we do are pop-ups... maybe five percent. We're highly sensitive to the fact that they're not a good user experience."

Among the most prolific marketers using pop-ups is Orbitz. The company declined to comment on the implications of the Service Pack update on its advertising strategy. Marketing Director Geoff Silvers said, "Our strategy has always been to evaluate things on a daily basis, and optimize based on what's performing and what isn't, and we'll continue to do that."

Silvers noted the industry, "continues to evolve, and it may be that a new technology will appear," as a replacement to pop-ups, were they to disappear.


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I for one won't miss them if and/or when they're gone. Everybody's gotta make a living, but popups simply got to be too intrusive for my taste.
1 posted on 11/14/2003 9:07:51 PM PST by JoJo Gunn
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To: JoJo Gunn
What about adware and spyware blocking!!! pop-ups aren't nearly as annoying as spammers getting your address.
2 posted on 11/14/2003 9:13:33 PM PST by blastdad51 (Proud father of an Enduring Freedom vet, and friend of a soldier lost in Afghanistan)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Mozilla Firebird is a terrific browser. I use it and get ZERO popups. It's great for most browsing.
3 posted on 11/14/2003 9:21:56 PM PST by freebilly
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To: JoJo Gunn
Great, are they going to do anything about default settings for active x scripting or for those insidious browser hijackers? MS has blown it, I'm using Mozilla from now on.
4 posted on 11/14/2003 9:25:39 PM PST by Brett66
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To: freebilly
This little program maximizes IE and OE windows and has a pretty good popup killer too.

Granted, it's not perfect. Sometimes it kills those smaller than usual "print article" windows, etc, but I recommend it. And it's free, though the maker, like most, would appreciate donations.


http://www.jiisoft.com/iemaximizer/index.htm


5 posted on 11/14/2003 9:26:59 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered ©)
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To: Brett66; blastdad51
I use Spybot and Spyware Blaster to help keep the hijackers out. Spyware Blaster I especially like because it's so small. I have AdAware too, but like the other two better, personally. Don't forget to check for definitions updates on all three!

http://www.safer-networking.org/


http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html


http://www.lavasoft.de/
6 posted on 11/14/2003 9:31:31 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered ©)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Click here: NEW ADS New pop Up that can't be blocked
7 posted on 11/14/2003 9:34:54 PM PST by america-rules (It's US or THEM so what part don't you understand ?)
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To: JoJo Gunn
I've tried spybot, adware and hijack blaster pro, it didn't work. I'll try the spyware blaster, maybe that'll detect and kill this trojan that's infected IE. I don't use IE much anyway, Mozilla Firebird really works great.
8 posted on 11/14/2003 9:39:52 PM PST by Brett66
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To: america-rules
Sliding adds, isn't that neat? They need to be drawn and quartered.
9 posted on 11/14/2003 9:42:04 PM PST by Brett66
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To: america-rules
I've seen several of that type, the latest one being a yellow box that says I'm the millionth visitor every time I hit the site.

Obviously spammers and ad "bombers" make money from somebody or they'd have disappeared long ago. I don't think that even if MS turns that blocker on by default it'll change much.

10 posted on 11/14/2003 9:43:25 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered ©)
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To: america-rules
Sorry, but it can be blocked by an IP filter. =)
11 posted on 11/14/2003 9:50:13 PM PST by PokeyJoe (why can't <img src""> in my tag line?)
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To: america-rules
Well, I turned off javascript, and the image is there and stationary, instead of appearing and sliding into the middle of the page. And clicking the X doesn't close it.
12 posted on 11/14/2003 9:50:50 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered ©)
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Does that mean we can go back to checking drudge?

Slight problem though. Many websites have popups as an intregral part of their site. FedEx.com shipping for one (worst put together site on the internet). If you have a pop up stopper, you have to disable it to make the site work. What's gonna happen with this change.

13 posted on 11/14/2003 9:51:04 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: freebilly
Mozilla Firebird is a terrific browser. I use it and get ZERO popups. It's great for most browsing.

Can you tel mw the difference between mozilla 1.5 and Mozilla firebird?

14 posted on 11/14/2003 9:58:25 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: america-rules
New pop Up that can't be blocked

Not exactly a popup, but it is annoying, and it will be easy for blockers to stop if it ever becomes popular.

15 posted on 11/14/2003 10:03:51 PM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: BJungNan
Many websites have popups as an intregral part of their site.

Most blockers do a good job of stopping only "unrequested" popups, and letting those that have a valid purpose through. Not sure about FedEx in particular.

16 posted on 11/14/2003 10:05:16 PM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Go to http://mozilla.org and read the FAQ. =)

Firebird is a browser only deal - small, fast, with the best features from Mozilla.
17 posted on 11/14/2003 10:08:47 PM PST by PokeyJoe (why can't <img src""> in my tag line?)
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To: BJungNan
Many websites have popups as an intregral part of their site.

You can hold down the control key and click the link for the pop up and it should allow the pop up. At least it does on mine.

18 posted on 11/14/2003 10:10:30 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: JoJo Gunn
"I think this will continue to stimulate creative minds in the ad community to find quality ways to reach an audience and communicate with them," he said. "You can't stop technology and innovation, so you continue to adapt."

There's no explaining the cluelessness of individuals or groups who seem unaware that they are their own worst enemy.

I would never but any product, no matter how useful, from an uninvited popup ad.

Period.

End of discussion.

19 posted on 11/14/2003 10:12:56 PM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Go download the Google toolbar. Kills popups. Works. Painless.
20 posted on 11/14/2003 10:13:54 PM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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