To: ChicagoHebrew
>>>Our government was mostly founded by religious Christians.
Mostly? Mostly?
>>>Certainly our common law and legal instutions were influenced by Christianity and Christian civilization
Yet Christianity is P.I. in public schools? Hence winter/spring break? vs. Jewish and now Islamic Holidays?
>>>It has nothing to do with a "money trail."
You cannot say that. You have no idea what you are talking about here. This was not posted as a general issue debate. This is an issue that is ongoing here in NJ that I know about and pinged NJ on.
>>>It has to do with the fact that religious minorities like to live near one another. Therefore, some school districts will naturally have large proportions of Jewish or Muslims students and teachers. Let me ask you this-- how could a school practically function if 1/3 of teachers don't show up? Schools don't have that many substitutes on retainer.
And yet I told you I know about the 1/3 absent rule and this had to do with a money trail issue and you continue?
>>>>which thanks to my people's superior brain power (half-sarcasm), were about 60% Jewish.
Ok, I am done talking to you. You are just being a jerk.
93 posted on
11/14/2003 5:13:02 PM PST by
Calpernia
(Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
To: Calpernia
Um... maybe because I don't believe you on the "money trail" issue, and was disputing your analysis with, um... facts.
To: Calpernia
>>>Our government was mostly founded by religious Christians.
Have you read Jefferson's writings??
A short time before his death, Jefferson, in a letter to John Adams, after commending the morals of Jesus, wrote as follows concerning his philosophical belief:
"It is not to be understood that I am with him [Jesus] in all his doctrines. I am a Materialist."
In support of his Materialistic creed, he argues as follows:
"On the basis of sensation we may erect the fabric of all the certainties we can have or need. I can conceive thought to be an action of matter or magnetism of loadstone. When he who denies to the Creator the power of endowing matter with the mode of motion called thinking shall show how he could endow the sun with the mode of action called attraction, which reins the planets in their orbits, or how an absence of matter can have a will, and by that will put matter into motion, then the Materialist may be lawfully required to explain the process by which matter exercises the faculty of thinking. When once we quit the basis of sensation, all is in the wind. To talk of immaterial existences, is to talk of nothings. To say that the human soul, angels, God, are immaterial, is to say they are nothings, or that there is no God, no angels, no soul. I cannot reason otherwise. But I believe that I am supported in my creed of Materialism by the Lockes, the Tracys, and the Stewarts."
Noting the absence of the idea of immortality in the Bible and particularly in the books ascribed to Moses, he writes:
"Moses had either not believed in a future state of existence, or had not thought it essential to be explicitly taught to the people." (Works, Vol. iv., p. 326.)
Money trail? I don't know. NJ had 181 days of instruction a year several years ago, i don't know if that changed.
118 posted on
11/17/2003 10:55:54 AM PST by
JerseyHighlander
(quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.)
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