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The European solution (re: Israel)
JPost ^ | Nov. 14, 2003 | CAROLINE GLICK

Posted on 11/14/2003 6:42:02 AM PST by veronica

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1 posted on 11/14/2003 6:42:02 AM PST by veronica
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To: dennisw; SJackson; yonif; Salem; Yehuda; yoe; Grampa Dave; Brian Allen; quidnunc
FYI.
2 posted on 11/14/2003 6:43:02 AM PST by veronica ("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
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Bump.
3 posted on 11/14/2003 6:43:59 AM PST by veronica ("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
4 posted on 11/14/2003 6:59:35 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
So now we know where Zorba The Anti-semite is coming from.
5 posted on 11/14/2003 7:02:10 AM PST by veronica ("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
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To: SJackson
I wonder what the lyrics of the "Palestinian national anthem" are. It's gotta be tough finding words to rhyme with Hitler, suicide, kill, and Yassir.
6 posted on 11/14/2003 7:04:45 AM PST by veronica ("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
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Ping.
7 posted on 11/14/2003 7:20:43 AM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: veronica
I wonder what the lyrics of the "Palestinian national anthem" are. It's gotta be tough finding words to rhyme with Hitler, suicide, kill, and Yassir.

I'm sure he's proud of his composition.

Since you may not be fluent in arabic

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COMPARING TWO NATIONAL ANTHEMS

 

#1   ISRAEL'S NATIONAL ANTHEM

Israel National Anthem:  Hatikva... "The Hope"

LYRICS TO HA-TIKVA ... "The Hope"
As long as deep in the heart,
The soul of a Jew yearns,
And forward to the East [
Toward Jerusalem]
To Zion, an eye looks
Our hope will not be lost,
The hope of two thousand years,
To be a free nation in our land,
The land of Zion and Jerusalem.

Click HERE to listen to "Hatikva"

 

..

[Proposed]
#
2  
ARAB-PALESTINIAN NATIONAL ANTHEM

 

Proposed "Palestinian" Anthem ... Violence and Blood!

LYRICS TO WHATEVER THEY CALL IT!

My country , my country
My country, the land of my grand fathers
My country, my country
My country, my nation, the nation of eternity
With my determination, my fire and the volcano of my revenge
The longing of my blood to my land and home
I have climbed the mountains and fought the wars
I have conquered the impossible, and crossed the frontiers
My country, my country, the nation of eternity
With the resolve of the winds and the fire of the guns
And the determination of my nation in the land of struggle
Palestine is my home, Palestine is my fire, Palestine is my revenge and the land of eternal
My country, my country, the nation of eternity
I swear under the shade of the flag
To my land and nation, and the fire of pain
I will live as a guerrilla, I will go on as guerrilla, I will expire as guerrilla until I will be back
My country, my country, the nation of eternity

[Nothing about Hope.  Only about blood, fighting and revenge!]

Click HERE to listen to the Arab-Palestinian National Anthem
(source of anthem http://www.palestinehistory.com )

 

CONCLUSION?

 

The Arab "Palestinians" have no clue about nation-building.
Perhaps Israel Has a Lot to Teach Arafat and the Arabs of "Palestine"
About Nation-Building!

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More on "Palestinian Nationalism
and the
Real War Against Israel...

The Middle East war is not now and never was a conflict between Israelis/Jews on the one hand and Palestinians on the other. In fact, the Arab-"Palestinians", while currently the perpetrators of most of the anti-Jewish atrocities, were never a very important part of the conflict. In fact, before about 1970, virtually no one in the world considered the Middle East conflict to be one between Israelis and Palestinians. 

The term "Palestinian" itself had referred to Israeli Jews back in the 1940s, and had been slowly deconstructed and redefined to refer to the Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza. The Middle East Conflict was always a war by Arabs against Jews, not a conflict between Israelis and "Palestinians." The war was repackaged as a conflict between Jews and Palestinians as a public relations gimmick by the Arab fascist regimes. These regimes had never had any interest in "Palestinians," in creating a "Palestinian" state, or in "Palestinian nationalism" before 1967. That is because Palestinian nationalism did not and DOES NOT exist. The Palestinians were a regional group of Arabs having virtually no cultural nor national distinctive traits separating them from Syrians, Lebanese, and Jordanians. They are all basically Arabs!. 

The bulk of what are called "Palestinian Arabs" are members of families who migrated into the Land of Israel beginning in the late 19th century. Palestinian nationalism is a mislabeling of Arab nationalism. Arab nationalism exists, although it is closely bound up with Islamic nationalism and even Islamism. Palestinian nationalism, however, is a phantom. It is nothing more than genocidal hatred of Jews! 

The Arab assaults and aggressions against Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1968, and 1973 had nothing to do with Palestinians. The Palestinian terror campaign would itself be easy to suppress today and eradicate if the Middle East conflict were really a Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Israel would simply obliterate the terrorists and expel their supporters to Syria and Lebanon. The Middle East war continues because it is really an Arab-Israeli war, not an Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It is also in large part a war between barbarism and civilization. In many ways an Islamic religious jihad against the Jews.

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8 posted on 11/14/2003 7:21:48 AM PST by SJackson
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BTW, not to suggest that palestinians aren’t “unique” Arabs, or that there are connections to Sadaam’s Iraq or Syria, but did you know the plos flag was actually designed at the time of pre WWI Arab revolts and was for a time the official flag of the Arab Baathist Party. The PLO officially adopted it as representative of the distinct “palestinian people” after they invented themselves in 1964 or 1965.
9 posted on 11/14/2003 7:27:41 AM PST by SJackson
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"Undaunted by the split his own government was so responsible for causing, Moissy recently published an article in the International Herald Tribune where he made the case for why Europe is indispensable for America. In his view, America cannot turn its back on Europe because "Europe is America's best protection against its own inner evils – neo-isolationist narcissism and arrogant ignorance of the way others may feel and think."

It's called freedom and independence you pot calling the kettle black putz. We need Europe like we need the Black Death. Any infection from this dysfunctional tribe of moral relativists is fatal.

We are on the short journey to the "Valley of Decision", we best be on the right side of it lest we find ourselves hiding in caves begging for mountains to fall on us. Europe had chosen it's road to destruction, I don't care how much they pout that we won't join them on that road. It's time to part company.

10 posted on 11/14/2003 7:33:13 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: SJackson
LYRICS TO WHATEVER THEY CALL IT

Great post.

11 posted on 11/14/2003 7:40:16 AM PST by veronica ("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
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To: MissAmericanPie
BTTT.
12 posted on 11/14/2003 7:41:32 AM PST by veronica ("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
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To: veronica
There is a direct connection between Europe's anti-Semitism and its anti-Americanism. European anti-Americanism stems from cultural envy of American independence and power. Europe wants America to accept its cultural superiority and in so doing, hitch US military and financial might to European visions of social engineering and global governance. Anti-Semitism plays an enormous role in the New Europe's attempt to force the US to adhere to its cultural dictates. If the US can be convinced that Israel is the gravest danger to world peace, as the vast majority of Europeans believe, then the US will effectively abandon its right to make moral distinctions for itself and come to rely on European guidance in its application of its military might.

Israel has a moral compass and cultural ethos that is congruent with the best of America's ethos.

In short, Israel is a mini America.

Envy is the root cause of all this hatred of America and Israel.

Think about it, stand aside and think about it. 997 out of every 1000 people in the world are NOT Jewish. Yet every year some 20% of the Noble Prizes in the hard sciences (chemistry, math, physics) are awarded to the people of the Book.

When was the last time some arab got a serious Noble prize.

In the Madrassas, the "school" libraries contain many books - but only one title - the koran.

Some of the teachers, westerners report, don't even know basic arithmetic.

G-d Bless America, G-d Bless Israel, and their Soldiers.

13 posted on 11/14/2003 7:53:28 AM PST by americanSoul (Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. Live Free or Die. I should be in New Hampshire.)
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Include France in the Sampson option.

New ping list for Islamic Jihad and terrorism. 3 pings per day, every day. Some from my old ping list are on by default.

On or off let me know by freepmail. 
Easy on, easy off, via freepmail.

14 posted on 11/14/2003 8:15:30 AM PST by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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That is because Palestinian nationalism did not and DOES NOT exist. The Palestinians were a regional group of Arabs having virtually no cultural nor national distinctive traits separating them from Syrians, Lebanese, and Jordanians. They are all basically Arabs!

It is also in large part a war between barbarism and civilization. In many ways an Islamic religious jihad against the Jews.

As Victor Davis Hansen says, we, Western Civilization, will prevail.

Any further 9/11 or a WMD attack on Israel => tactical nuclear hit on Mecca, Medina, and the Aswan dam. The latter will immediately place all these sub-humans under 20 feet of water.

15 posted on 11/14/2003 8:28:48 AM PST by americanSoul (Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. Live Free or Die. I should be in New Hampshire.)
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To: veronica
Theodorakis criticism is interesting;

Jews think too highly of themselves and refuse to obey the commands of their superiors.

16 posted on 11/14/2003 8:30:25 AM PST by liberallarry
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To: veronica
I wonder what the lyrics of the "Palestinian national anthem" are. It's gotta be tough finding words to rhyme with Hitler, suicide, kill, and Yassir.

Well put, gallows humor indeed!

17 posted on 11/14/2003 8:30:43 AM PST by americanSoul (Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. Live Free or Die. I should be in New Hampshire.)
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To: SJackson
That bicycle shot is another confirmation of the truism "a picture is worth a thousand words".
18 posted on 11/14/2003 8:40:56 AM PST by americanSoul (Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. Live Free or Die. I should be in New Hampshire.)
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To: veronica
I totally disagree with the author's premise. It's my opinion that the rise in anti-semitism in Europe can be traced to the usual suspects: It always comes back to fear, and with weak people, fear trumps what they know is moral.
19 posted on 11/14/2003 8:43:37 AM PST by sakic
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To: veronica
interesting... a few minutes ago i posted this article also, (using the full title)"Column One The European Solution" . it is a good article and i am glad others see that too. however, since the full title wasnt used, my title search was useless. (everyone) please post full titles.

re: the subject - Glick is making good sense here. The mark of euro-trash power is reflected in what level of antijewism is apparent at any particular time.
20 posted on 11/14/2003 8:44:57 AM PST by APRPEH (tag you're it...)
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