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The Assault Weapons Ban May Be Bush's Undoing
TooGood Reports ^ | 13 November 2003 | Lee R Shelton IV

Posted on 11/13/2003 12:45:22 PM PST by 45Auto

George W. Bush and his neoconservative advisers have decided that their best strategy for the 2004 campaign is to focus on the "doctrine of preemption." The obvious goal is to portray the president as a hero in the war on terror, conveying the notion that he is the one who is able to keep America safe. Unfortunately for Bush, his position on the assault weapons ban may cause his reelection plans to unravel.

Many conservatives currently feel comfortable backing Bush for a second term. For one thing, he cut taxes, and the economy is on the rebound. He has shown courage by taking on global terrorism. He appointed as Attorney General a man who believes that the Second Amendment supports an individual's right to keep and bear arms. Bush is every conservative's dream, right? Think again.

During his 2000 campaign, candidate Bush voiced his support of the assault weapons ban that was passed during the Clinton administration. The federal law is scheduled to expire on Sept. 13, 2004, and Bush, speaking as president, has already stated that he supports its reauthorization.

Some have tried to excuse the president's position by arguing that he is merely telling people what they want to hear, stating publicly that the ban is a good thing while remaining confident that renewal of the ban will never even make it through the House of Representatives. That may offer some comfort to disgruntled conservatives, but it is important to remember that 38 Republicans voted for the ban in 1994 and 42 voted against its repeal in 1996. That doesn't bode well for freedom-loving Americans.

Don't be surprised in the coming months to see the Bush administration pushing for a renewal of the assault weapons ban by promoting it as an effective tool in our fight against terrorism. After all, such a ban would make it easier for law enforcement officers to break up terrorist organizations here in the United States. In 1993, for example, a raid on a Muslim commune in central Colorado turned up bombs, automatic weapons, ammunition and plans for terrorist attacks.

On Dec. 6, 2001, Attorney General John Ashcroft, testifying before Congress, revealed an al-Qaida training manual that had been discovered in Afghanistan. The manual, he claimed, told terrorists "how to use America's freedom as a weapon against us." The fear was that terrorists in the U.S. would exploit loopholes in our gun laws in an effort to arm themselves – and with radical groups like Muslims of America already purchasing guns, we can't be too careful.

Like most federal laws, the assault weapons ban was originally passed with the assumption that Americans are willing to sacrifice liberty for safety. This, of course, has been historically a safe assumption on the part of our elected officials in Washington. But Bush's position on the assault weapons ban may very well come back to haunt him when he seeks to reconnect with his conservative base in 2004.

The hypocrisy of the president has already been revealed. He spoke out in favor of the government's prerogative to trample on the Second Amendment – under the guise of "reasonable" gun legislation – at the same time he was sending troops armed with fully automatic weapons to Iraq. This may seem like a stupid question, but if soldiers are allowed to carry assault weapons in order to provide for the common defense, why can't that same right be extended to civilians who want nothing more than to defend their homes and families?

John Ashcroft once said during his confirmation hearing, "I don't believe the Second Amendment to be one that forbids any regulation of guns." Far be it from me to contradict the highest-ranking law enforcement officer in the country, but the Constitution forbids exactly that. The federal government is barred from passing any law that may infringe upon the right of Americans to keep and bear arms. Period. It can't be explained in simpler terms than that.

President Bush would be wise to reconsider his position on the assault weapons ban. If he isn't careful, he and other members of his administration may end up alienating the few true conservatives left in the Republican Party – and that would be a mistake this close to election time.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: aw; awb; ban; bang; banglist; bush; guncontrol; righttobeararms; rkba; secondamendment
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To: Badray
Weak.
401 posted on 11/16/2003 1:14:51 AM PST by Consort
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To: Consort
And your contribution to the discussion has been. . . What?

To kiss up to those who would further restrict your rights. You don't want to, or are afraid to, be part of the solution.

Therefore, you are the problem.
402 posted on 11/16/2003 6:00:05 AM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: Badray
There you go again. You're going to.......teach them a lesson.......regardless of whether or not it will make things better or worse. Is that your plan of action?
403 posted on 11/16/2003 6:24:45 AM PST by Consort
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To: Consort
Ever have children? Punishing them is no fun for the parent either (like cancelling vacation plans, waiting another year to finally get another driver in the family, etc), but it has to be done for the good of the child, the good of the family, and the good of everyone in the child's future.
404 posted on 11/16/2003 7:23:02 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Badray
Indeed, they are poison. But as the saying goes, What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger.

LOL, now I leap to the other side of the argument... the comeback:

"Renewing an already existing gun ban won't kill us, since the previous 10 years didn't."

But you say, "Ah! This WILL cost lives in the future, just look at every other gun-banning example".

And their retort to our sunset-the-ban-or-let-GWB-lose stand, of course, is "Ah! But that WILL cost lives in the future, just look at every other nation that drove Left over time."

What a great Hobson's Choice we have. Pick your poison, folks! It's one heck of an indicator of how successful the Left has been for decades, and what an uphill battle we face.

405 posted on 11/16/2003 7:29:11 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317; Badray; Consort
(Ideally, though, our optimum position is for GWB to win in 2004 AND for the AWB to sunset. What a pity that he wants to sign it. The easiest way to avoid this choice between two evils is for one man to change his mind... but that does not look likely, making GWB's leadership more questionable in the eyes of many, like myself. Our next best hope, then, is to make damn sure that it does not reach his desk for this infuriatingly wrong-headed signature. To Congress! Raaahhhh!)
406 posted on 11/16/2003 7:33:57 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: MindBender26
I do realize however that a bunch of one-issue spoiled children think they and their issue is so important, in fact the only important issue in Amercia, that they are willing to help elect a liberal if they don't get their way on one small segment of their overall issue.

I suspect most folks on this thread have a scale of sorts. Let me elaborate on mine:

GOOD: Foreign policy, tax cut, PBA ban, overall decorum

BAD: CFR, Prescription Drug Bill, higher government spending

Every time an item is added to one of those lists it impacts my view of this administration. So in theory one issue could tip the balance in either direction.

This bogeyman folks like yourself continue to trot out (electing a liberal) simply doesn't fly with the more principled conservatives. I refuse to be complicit in policy that hurts my family. Period. I will only vote for candidates that have a net benefit. Now, to date I think Bush has exerted a positive force on our nation. But he hasn't accrued so much goodwill that it cannot be undone by a few foolish policy decisions of the sort proposed here.

407 posted on 11/16/2003 7:40:54 AM PST by NittanyLion (Character Counts)
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To: NittanyLion
The problem with your logic is, next November, we will elect a President. There will be two VIABLE candidates. Forget all the BS about this or that 3d party.

One of those candidates will be more liberal, one more conservative. Which one do you want in office? It all boils down to that simple binary question.

First rule of Realpolitics. To govern, you must first be elected.

Your vote is not a question of helping the conservative be elected. It's a question of your vote, or non vote, helping the conservative or the liberal govern you over the next four years.
408 posted on 11/16/2003 8:13:14 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: Travis McGee
Nice portrait. Seal Team 1, oh, around 1980? ...judging from the MAC 10 you're carrying. I have a good friend who was on Team 1 about at that time, I'll bet you know him. Kind of lost touch with him, can you help me find him?

Don't the Pubbies remember what happened to the rats when they passed this abomination of a law in 1994? Pretty da*n short on memory if you ask me.

Maybe W ought to talk to his dad about what happened to him in 1992 when he abandoned his principles on taxation.

409 posted on 11/16/2003 8:29:34 AM PST by CarryaBigStick
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Sir, I use military rifles regularly in NRA high power rifle matches; rifle matches that were created to keep the militia proficient in marksmanship so they would be effective when needed in an emergency.

No! I *will* not just shut up and take it!

410 posted on 11/16/2003 8:46:06 AM PST by CarryaBigStick
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I'll put my money on Travis any day. Even if he was unarmed you'd probably lose, but armed with a blunderbuss with rusty nails your fate would be sealed.
411 posted on 11/16/2003 8:59:29 AM PST by CarryaBigStick
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To: MindBender26
Your vote is not a question of helping the conservative be elected. It's a question of your vote, or non vote, helping the conservative or the liberal govern you over the next four years.

I will not vote for a person who I believe will govern to a net loss for the country. No amount of scare tactics will convince me otherwise. Until politicians realize there are consequences for their actions, they will continue to take the vote of folks like yourself for granted. I'm not about to join in enabling bad behavior in DC.

412 posted on 11/16/2003 9:01:35 AM PST by NittanyLion (Character Counts)
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To: CarryaBigStick
Close. That's ST2 about 81, I was an east coast frog. To find former team guys, there's a few websites that can help, I think one is navyseals.com. I agree about W: if he walks away from us, a lot of us won't exactly be motivated to reelect him.
413 posted on 11/16/2003 10:07:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Teacher317
Very bad and dangerous analogy. Punishing your kid does not create a power vacuum that will be filled bay another (and worse) kid. You punished Bush 41 and the Clintons immediately filled the vacuum to the detriment of the whole country....and they're not done with us yet. You taught Bush 41 a real lesson, didn't you? Are you proud of what you did? Are you going to do the same in 2004? If so, then you owe all the kids an apology.
414 posted on 11/16/2003 12:06:27 PM PST by Consort
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To: NittanyLion
Thank you for identifying yourself. Now we know who the real RINO is!
415 posted on 11/16/2003 3:59:59 PM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: MindBender26
Indeed we do.
416 posted on 11/16/2003 4:27:34 PM PST by NittanyLion (Character Counts)
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To: NittanyLion
Your point in post # 412 is exactly right.

If a politician doesn't really believe in our constitution, we can at least make them aware that it is to their best interest to act like they do.

Bush Sr. pulled one of the dirtiest tricks I can ever remember. He stabbed gun owners right in the back at the exact time when it would hurt the most. I am not a particularly vendictive person but that one I won't forget. I was willing to give his Son the benefit of the doubt but he is certainly not sending the right signals.

417 posted on 11/16/2003 4:37:04 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Consort
Your vote for Bush if he signs a renewal of the AWB (or a worse version) will tell both parties that restrictions on gun, gun rights and gun owners is okay.

I do not accept that it is okay and I will withhold support and my vote REGARDLESS OF ANY CONSEQUENCES.

Bush and every other politician has to know that there is a cost for their actions.
418 posted on 11/16/2003 4:50:50 PM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: yarddog
I'm constantly amazed by the fact that some Republicans talk about black voters "staying on the Democrat Plantation" - yet these folks allow their vote to be taken for granted by the GOP when they never stand on any principle. Their inability to perform even the slightest bit of introspection is sad to watch.
419 posted on 11/16/2003 5:01:09 PM PST by NittanyLion (Character Counts)
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To: CIB-173RDABN; MindBender26; justshutupandtakeit
Yeah, we should all vote for Democrats, they really support the second ammendment. /not

So we have a choice of driving over a cliff at 60 miles an hour in the Democrat, or driving over a cliff at 20 miles an hour in the Republican car.

420 posted on 11/16/2003 5:03:43 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY SCARING FELLOW FREEPERS SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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