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To: Modernman
You're still relying on the No True Scotsman argument- you get to excommunicate any Christian whose actions you don't like. What about entire Christian nations that revelled in Inquisitions, pogroms etc. under the approval of the Pope? (who was the final arbiter of Christianity at the time).

I'm not Catholic. I'm Baptist, but support the Salvation Army. I looked for a church that's the same as the church of Philidelphia (The Church Christ chose to reward the most) in the book of Revelations. It's a poor missionary church. They get things freely through free will, and give things freely through free will , and do not want the government, nor PC, involved in their good deeds. They're ruled by a higher power.

493 posted on 11/13/2003 1:03:59 PM PST by concerned about politics ( So it is. It is done.)
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To: concerned about politics
I'm Baptist, but support the Salvation Army.

I'm Congregationalist, and I support the Salvation Army too, especially at Christmas.

504 posted on 11/13/2003 1:12:41 PM PST by huck von finn
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To: concerned about politics
Attorney General Bill Pryor Prosecutes Chief Justice Moore

Attorney General Bill Pryor Prosecutes Chief Justice Moore and Claims the Chief Justice is “Unrepentant” for Acknowledging God Notwithstanding Court Orders to the Contrary.

Q: And if you resume your duties as Chief Justice after this proceeding, you will continue to acknowledge God as you have testified that you would today?

A: That's right.

Q: No matter what any official says?

A: Absolutely.

The following is a partial transcript from yesterday’s trial of Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore. Like Luther standing before the tribunal at the Diet of Worms, Chief Justice Roy Moore was explicitly condemned for being “unrepentant “ in his unwillingness to submit to a federal order prohibiting him from acknowledging God as a state official. Attorney General Bill Pryor demanded the Court of the Judiciary to immediately remove him from office for his refusal to deny God and for “inciting the public to support his misconduct.”

It must be stressed, that Attorney General Pryor did not cross-examine Chief Justice Moore on his future position towards Ten Commandment monuments, but only the issue of the acknowledgment of God as a public official. The following is a partial transcript of the concluding questions in the cross-examination of Chief Justice Moore by Attorney General Bill Pryor.

Q: Mr. Chief Justice? And your understanding is that the federal court ordered that you could not acknowledge God; isn’t that right?

A: Yes.

Q: And if you resume your duties as Chief Justice after this proceeding, you will continue to acknowledge God as you have testified that you would today?

A: That’s right.

Q: No matter what any official says?

A: Absolutely. Without – let me clarify that. Without an acknowledgement of God, I cannot do my duties. I must acknowledge God. It says so in the constitution of Alabama. It says so in the first amendment to the United States Constitution. It says so in everything I have read. So - -

Q: The only point I’m trying to clarify, Mr. Chief Justice, is not why, but only that, in fact, if you do resume your duties as Chief Justice, you will continue to do that [acknowledge God] without regard to what any other official says; isn’t that right?

A: Well, I’ll do the same thing this court did with starting a prayer; that’s an acknowledgement of God. Now, we did the same say thing that justices do when they place their hand on the Bible and say, “So help me God.” It’s an acknowledgement of God. The Alabama Supreme Court opened with, “God save the State and this Honorable Court.” It’s an acknowledgement of God. In my opinion, which I have written many opinions, acknowledging God is the source – a moral source of law. I think you must.


641 posted on 11/14/2003 8:43:30 AM PST by ppaul
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