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To: Redwood71
Ketosis and ketoacidosis are not different.

You really really really are embarrassing yourself here. The misrepresentations in your post are basically the whole post.

People, ketosis is a natural state. It is UNNATURAL to never go into ketosis. Only quite recently did man stop going into ketosis for extended periods. This was as a result of the agricultural revolution. Before then man went into ketosis for extended period. Ketosis and ketoacidosis are two separate thing. Ketosis occurs in a healthy adult. It is safe and beneficial. It is a healthy process. Ketone are the preferred food of the brain. (Contrary to the assertion that Redwood made that glucose was the only food the brain could use earlier.) Ketoacidosis occurs as a result of muscle wasting in very sick individuals and diabetics.

Man NEEDS absolutely no carbohydrates - NONE. Redwood has a carbivore type agenda here and he is pulling out all the carbivore lies.

Read the following links, Redwood need to go to continuing education if he thinks the brain doesn't use ketones only glucose. The human race would have died out thousand of years ago if he was right.

Low Carb Diets Feed Your Brain

Brain Metabolism During Fasting

A search on any of the red herrings he has trotted out will disprove them. i don't have time to do each and every last one but research anything he says before you believe it.

82 posted on 01/02/2004 4:14:40 PM PST by Nov3
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To: Nov3
"Man NEEDS absolutely no carbohydrates - NONE. Redwood has a carbivore type agenda here and he is pulling out all the carbivore lies."


Tell you what, before I walk away from this, even with all the reputable organizations I have quoted and copied/pasted, maybe you can have an observation: What reason do I have to get onto a thread I didn't start, to talk to people I will probably never meet, to voice a minutely marketed opinion about something that won't cure aids or world hunger, and not getting anything out of it but name calling from you, to lie? I have nothing to gain in this by quoting out of my books or using the web because it is in reach. I voiced an opinion based upon studies and using studies, and I get nothing out of it but attempted public degradation from someone I don't know, nor care to if they have this little to offer, by attacking the idea without all the facts. You disregarded the organizations I quoted and posted with "Did a lot of culling to get those ehh."

I probably should hve walked away earlier, but I had some folks like LadySmith asked me some honest questions that I felt I should answer to be honest.

I am walking away now. The last time I "got into a discussion" on a web site about this, it ended the same way. My time is running short on this planet, and I don't have it to waste on people that have nothing to offer but name calling and attacking the messenger rather than reviewing the information I provided. And that is obvious as you have not entered one piece of discussion to repute the John Hopkins or University Med Centers entries. It has all been at me and not the information. Thank you, no thanks. It is no longer an intelligent discussion if it ever was.

I wish you a long life, illness free, and in good health. Sometimes people, who have something to gain, sell used cars under falsehoods and partial truths to make money. That is what I feel to many of the low carb/high protein diet pushers do. Can it work? According to reputable medical organizations, yes. But the price to pay in too many study results, is a little too high for my taste. You can have it.
86 posted on 01/03/2004 7:43:40 AM PST by Redwood71
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