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Ten-year-old dies in house fire, chained to bed
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Posted on 11/12/2003 3:18:33 PM PST by chance33_98

Ten-year-old dies in house fire, chained to bed

Clarksville, Arkansas-AP -- The parents of a ten-year-old girl have been arrested on manslaughter charges after their daughter died in a house fire, allegedly chained to a bed by her ankles.

Investigators in Clarksville, Arkansas, say the blaze was accidental. The parents and their other two children made it out of the house before it burned to the ground. But a deputy says when authorities arrived on the scene, the father said he couldn't get the girl out.

Firefighters found the girl's body in her bedroom under debris where the roof collapsed. Investigators also found a chain and padlock they believe secured her to the bed.

The parents were questioned -- but there's no word on their explanation. They're jailed on 100-thousand dollars bail each.


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To: LadyShallott
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41 posted on 11/12/2003 5:49:40 PM PST by chance33_98 (Check out my Updated Profile Page (and see banners at end, if you want one made let me know!))
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To: UCANSEE2
I have read your posts several times trying to fathom why you would state such a thing. I do agree with your theory that noone should be charged, convicted and hung before the facts are out. With this being said, the reasons that you previously stated:Anymore, with parents lacking authority, influence of the media, children, especially 10 year old girls, can be quite a problem. Is that not the responsibility of the parents? You suggested previously that the parents may NOT be at fault. Ok, why? I am the oldest of four children and from that experience I must say that my siblings would have screamed bloody murder if they were locked to a bed. Why didn't the parents notice that she was locked to a bedframe? It's always possible that the girl could have done it herself, but I imagine that she would have had a key near her if that was the case? They don't seem to state in the above article that another body was found of a stranger or of anyone that was outside of the family. So it seems that the family has many truths that haven't been told. Above all it seems that they have let a 10 year old, regardless of any behavior problems, down. They are the leaders of this family. Not an elementary student.
42 posted on 11/12/2003 6:10:25 PM PST by LadyShallott
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To: BossLady
I would say murder-they chain her up, set the fire, and left the house knowing she would burn.

Manslaughter-They chain her up as punishment, house catches fire, they cant get to her to unlock the chains.

One is intentional death, the other is not intentional.

Just a guess.
43 posted on 11/12/2003 6:40:31 PM PST by trussell (PRAYER WORKS!!)
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To: UCANSEE2
Facts: 10 year old girl burned to death after being chained to her bed.

Conclusion: Hang 'em.
44 posted on 11/12/2003 6:44:04 PM PST by SerpentDove (www.neatophotos.com)
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
Just a minute, RJ. Are you saying that I hump camels?
45 posted on 11/12/2003 7:19:09 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
Point well taken. Now, the life of another child has been lost due to abuse. This society as it stands today relegates the rights of a child to the parents. The problem is that children are seen by some as disposable, as noted in this death by abuse story.

I am afraid that the death of children, born and unborn (partial birth abortion) will continue to escalate out of control until there is a swift and equitable price to pay for those deaths.
47 posted on 11/13/2003 5:55:29 AM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: LadyShallott
Thanks for the response. You kinda went all over the place with your reply, so I will keep it direct and simple.

If you noticed, there is no direct statement, so far, that the chain and padlock were actually found locked around the child's anatomy anywhere.

The firemen stated they found a chain and padlock that they believed was used to chain her to the bed (one can assume that this must mean the chain was connected to the bed).

If it is determined it was actually connected to her body, then a case can be made for manslaughter.

I suggested the parents may not be at fault (meaning I saw no proof they chained her to the bed), but that doesn't mean they are not responsible for her death.

They are. Even if they had the best reason in the world to chain her to the bed, they are responsible for her death.

48 posted on 11/13/2003 12:07:52 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ("Duty is ours, Results are God's" --John Quincy Adams)
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To: saint
I agree with you. I believe in the method established for our justice system. I do not believe in it's current execution.

For instance, mtDNA was used in the Westerfield/Danielle murder case as proof, whereas in the Peterson case, it is being rejected (so far) as not being accurate enough (can't id individuals of a family line).

In the Robert Blake/BonnieLee case, there is evidence available that shows who actually did the killing. This person even testified in the hearing against Blake. This person also is linked to the other boyfriend of BonnieLee and it is obvious what happened.

The prosecutor in the case, when asked if Brando and this accomplice could have been the two involved in the killing instead of Blake and the accomplice, she said NO, when asked her reason, she said, BECAUSE I JUST KNOW.

What BS! Oh, boy, we know she will be fair. CONVICTED BECAUSE THE PROSECUTOR JUST KNOWS.

I wonder how much the Brando Family contributed to her coffers?

49 posted on 11/13/2003 12:21:25 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ("Duty is ours, Results are God's" --John Quincy Adams)
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To: The KG9 Kid
You can read my other posts, but basically, no one has stated that the girl was chained to the bed, at the time of the fire.

Maybe she was, maybe she wasn't, and the articles suggest it, but the subjects don't state it.

I would say it is likely she was, and even if not, why the chain and padlock attached (I assume) to the bed?

Once all the answers are in, then the court system can judge, and I can feel like the justice system is doing it's job.

50 posted on 11/13/2003 12:25:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ("Duty is ours, Results are God's" --John Quincy Adams)
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To: SerpentDove
This is exactly what I am fighting, and that is blunt acceptance of implications by the media.

If you state these are facts, please provide right now, a statement proving that she was chained up to the bed, during the fire.

51 posted on 11/13/2003 12:27:49 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ("Duty is ours, Results are God's" --John Quincy Adams)
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To: UCANSEE2
Let's find out the facts before rushing to conclusions.

You're concerned the daughter was changing into a werewolf?

52 posted on 11/13/2003 12:39:05 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: JoeSchem
Here is the a report on the information about the child.

"It's my understanding that the child was mentally challenged," Prosecutor David Gibbons said. "In addition may have had some behavioral problems and that's how they dealt with, which is not the right way."

53 posted on 11/17/2003 12:00:47 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ("Duty is ours, Results are God's" --John Quincy Adams)
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