Posted on 11/12/2003 9:49:33 AM PST by hsmomx3
Anyone hear about this?
"The Universal National Service Act of 2003 "amends the Military Selective Service Act to authorize the military registration of females" and declares "that it is the obligation of every U.S. citizen, and every other person residing in the United States, between the ages of 18 and 26 to perform a two-year period of national service"
You illiterate?
I said I was pro-professional military. But your type only responds with hyperbole and misdirection when trying to muddy the waters.
Thomas Paine would be ashamed of your devotion to big government.
Just so we know where you're really coming from.
I refuse to apologize to someone who seeks to enslave me and others to laws to do not apply to herself.
You want to talk life, you have no idea how much socialist double-standard BS I have been force to endere in my life. I know who people who personally enjoyed and got off seeing me suffer.
Given everything I have been through, I am a very polite person. But if an Ivory Tower Socialist Urban Ditz (ITSUD) like you seeks to make me your enemy and wants to further enslave me to the state, you better watch you back because I am going seek to ram that tyranny right back down YOUR throat.
Um...it IS a freedom thing. Freedom to not risk death at some socialist's whim. Freedom to defend one's country when a threat is perceived...and freedom to care for one's own when a threat is not perceived. Would you REALLY blindly trust your life to those in Congress?
Interesting they seek to eliminate the 2nd Amendment, and replace the void with conscription.
Great quote. W.H. Auden had an epigram similar: "The tyrant's device: Whatever is possible, is necesssary"
Congress has taxed workers financially about as much as possible (cumulative 50-75% rates), they are considering taxing your life. This bill is not about conscription during special needs of the nation, it is about FORCING people to spend two years of their lives working directly for the government. For deficit-spending congresscritters, that is a LOT cheaper and more efficient than trying to squeeze more money out of you: rather than attempting to extract what little is left of your income and pay that to a well-compensated federal employee, they just take YOU and make you work for little or no pay.
This isn't about defending the country.
This is about taking taxation in new and horrifying directions.
Very interesting. This presumes/trusts the conscription is for legitimate national defense. Read the bill carefully - it is not.
Whoaaa, hold on there toad. Given all the heated rhetoric you've been spouting here, you've been anything but polite. You call someone a "liar" when you have no idea about the person you are talking to.
As far as I'm concerned, your term "Ivory Tower Socialist Urban Ditz (ITSUD)" applies more to your attitude than anything I've seen in this discussion.
And personally, I find your claim that those who disagree with you are seeking to "enslave" you to be simply overinflated, overheated and stupid rhetoric. Cry me a river.
So, chill out bud, and get a grip. You are defeating your own arguments with this type of nonsense. You sure as hell don't convince me. Probably because you are wrong.
More dumbing-down; more deconstruction.
According to "Business Week," U.S. colleges are now 60 percent female to 40 percent male. What happened to 50-50?
Doe anyone really think Chelsea would get drafted into this? It's simply to thin the male herd. Pathetic.
The objection is the absence of the freedom to say "no".
The 2nd Amendment explicitly provides for the security of the nation by allowing citizens to arm themselves - without compulsion. As others have pointed out in various ways: if the threat is real enough, people will defend the nation...but if you must force them to, either the threat is not real or the nation gets what it deserves.
'tis absurd to disarm the people yet make service compulsary.
You call me toad than complain about me calling someone a liar.
You sir are a hypocrite.
I beat you to that logical conclusion in post 61.
But good point.
Come now, tpaine. I'm not inanely babbling. I'm using logic and reason. Please be civil.
We could fulfill that duty easily by a short term 'boot camp' for all young people while retaining our all professional armed forces.
Defend the Constitution, with draftees? Are you going to use them to seige Congress? Really, you of all people ought to know that the biggest threat to our Constitution is right here at home.
Freedom would be served.
Freedom is slavery? (where have I heard that one...)
What possible ~logical~ objection do you have?
Vietnam
Korea
Kosovo
Somalia
Bosnia
Panama
Lebanon
Iraq
You are the one who needs to grow up. I am not the one who is baselessly name calling. I called NYC Chick a lair because that is what she did, she has not faced that situation yet and therefore does not know if her views will not change.
But...I called you a toad because you are getting "run over" on the highway of logic, reason and argument.
I wish more people would look hard at this bill. All they see is a flag.
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