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The Downfall of Uniformitarianism
Creation-Evolution Headlines ^ | 11/04/2003 | Creation-Evolution Headlines

Posted on 11/12/2003 8:25:52 AM PST by bondserv

The Downfall of Uniformitarianism   11/04/2003
Can major paradigm shifts occur in science today?  Check this one out.
    You’ve seen it on TV science programs and in textbooks: plumes of hot magma from deep in the Earth’s mantle rise through the crust and erupt on the surface (the IMAX movie Yellowstone has computer graphics of the whole process).  Perhaps you’ve seen animations of the Hawaiian Islands riding over a “hot spot” and building its chain of volcanoes over millions of years on its slow, drifting journey.  Textbook diagrams show cross-sections of Earth’s crust, with lava erupting from channels rooted deep in the mantle, while crustal plates float and drift atop deep convection currents.
    That’s all defunct now, and so is a lot of the uniformitarian dogma associated with it, claims Warren B. Hamilton (Colorado School of Mines), in an extensive article in this month’s GSA Today.1  Uniformitarianism is out, catastrophism is in.  Now, don’t get the idea Hamilton denies the Earth is billions of years old; he still accepts the 4.567 billion year figure, the condensation of Earth from a solar nebula, and all that.  But he replaces Charles Lyell’s old premise “the present is the key to the past” with a new picture that seems to pay homage to Stephen Jay Gould.  He calls his model “Punctuated Gradualism.”  How serious is the subject?  Enough for him to entitle his paper, “An Alternative Earth,” and for it to get prominent press in a journal of the world’s leading geological society.
    Here’s the overview Hamilton provides of his paradigm, and the timeline of catastrophic events he now envisions (Note: Ga = giga-annum, i.e., a billion years.  Emphasis added in all quotes):

The Earth described here differs profoundly from that accepted as dogma in most textbooks and research papers.  Crust and upper mantle have formed a mostly closed system throughout geologic time, and their dramatic temporal changes are responses to cooling.  The changing processes define a Punctuated Gradualism and not Uniformitarianism.  Major stages in Earth evolution:
  1. 4.567–ca. 4.4 Ga.  Hot accretion and major irreversible mantle fractionation.  Giant bolides continue to ca. 3.9 Ga.
  2. 4.4–3.5 Ga.  Era of nearly global felsic crust, too hot and mobile to stand as continents.
  3. 3.5–2.0 Ga.  Granite-and-greenstone era.  Permanent hydrosphere.  Old crust cooled to density permitting mafic melts to reach surface.  Diapiric batholiths mobilized from underlying old crust.
  4. 2.0 Ga–continuing.  Plate tectonic era.  Distinct continents and oceans.  Top-down cooling of oceanic lithosphere enables subduction that drives plates, forces spreading, and mixes continental as well as oceanic crust into upper mantle.
While much of this timeline looks standard, some of the underlying changes to assumptions are striking.  The rhetoric is also notable in that the new view is revolutionary, and overthrows long-held beliefs about uniformitarianism and plate tectonics.  Notice his confidence in the abstract: “Plumes from deep mantle, subduction into deep mantle, and bottom-up convective drive do not exist.”  In his Overview, he outlines how the old ideas have died:
The conventional model (e.g., Turcotte and Schubert, 2002) of Earth’s evolution and dynamics postulates that most of the mantle is little fractionated, major differentiation continues, and continental crust has grown progressively throughout geologic time; through-the-mantle convection operates, lithosphere plates are moved by bottom-driven currents, and plumes rise from basal mantle to surface; and plate tectonics operated in early Precambrian time.  All of these conjectures likely are false.  They descend from speculation by Urey (1951) and other pioneers, reasonable then but not now, that Earth accreted slowly and at low temperature from fertile chondritic and carbonaceous-chondritic materials, heated gradually by radioactive decay and core segregation, and is still fractionating.
Hamilton explains that “The notion of a cold, volatile-rich, young planet has long since been disproved,” but its corollary of an unfractionated [i.e., homogeneous, and therefore fluid] lower mantle no longer can stand up to the facts; “major constraints” now rule this view out in favor of shallow crustal activity from the upper mantle and crust.  This includes radioactive heating, of which he says, “Earth’s heat loss, now largely of radiogenic heat, is much overstated in the standard model.” He suggests a value 70% the earlier one, and states, “thermodynamic and mineral-physics data require that nearly all radioactivity be above 660 km (Hofmeister and Criss, 2003),” i.e., no deeper than 400 miles.  At that depth there is a discontinuity that could not be breached by a magma plume.
    In short, most volcanic activity and crustal movement is shallow, and plate tectonics started much later than assumed.  What are some of the ramifications geologists will have to consider if Hamilton’s “Alternative Earth” becomes the new textbook orthodoxy?  Some are technical, but here are a few for the casual reader: These are just a few of the ramifications mentioned by Hamilton.  Other consequences of this “Alternative Earth” with its shallow motions and shallow heating may become evident if the view becomes mainstream, which appears inevitable (see Aug. 20 and Apr. 1 headlines).
1Warren B. Hamilton, “An Alternative Earth,” GSA Today, Vol. 13, No. 11, pp. 4–12.; DOI: 10.1130/1052-5173(2003)013<0004:AAE>2.0.CO;2.
What’s most interesting about this story is not the new model, which may become the next discarded paradigm in the future, but the frank and revealing charges made against proponents of the old model: that they cheated, lied, and used irrational arguments to prop up their beliefs.  Is that possible in science?  You read it right here.
    Creationists have similarly argued against the standard model for a long time and maybe now are getting some comeuppance.  Dr. Walter Brown, for instance, has complained that deep mantle magma plumes are impossible, because the kinematics and thermodynamics would force the channels shut (see his paragraph on volcanoes and lava).  Volcanism, therefore, must occur at shallow depths.
    What can we learn from this paradigm shift?  Make no mistake: confident-sounding scientific models, replete with professional jargon, (maybe even this one here - cf. 11/14/2002 headline), are written by fallible human beings.  Like a hollow idol on a pedestal, a popular theory about the unobservable past might gleam in the sun for awhile, till toppled by tremors of fact.  Broken on the ground, it is swept away and forgotten, and then a new hollow idol takes its place.  Why hollow?  Because no observer was there to corroborate the processes or the vast periods of time they are assumed to take.  Remember Grand Canyon!  It was the prototypical case of a phenomenon requiring millions of years, yet now the consensus is growing that it was formed catastrophically and recently (see 07/22/2002 headline).  It should seem foolish to place one’s faith in the conjectures of mortals instead of in the testimony of an authoritative Eyewitness.
    Those not beholden to secular geological conjectures might well consider what this paradigm shift may do to other geological conjectures.  It may well cause a domino effect on current models in subjects as diverse as radiometric dating (which assumes pristine, unprocessed material from the deep mantle), planetary differentiation, seismology, volcanology, magnetic field dynamo theory, and even the origin of life.  This model tinkers with temperatures, chemistry, the nature of the core and mantle, the timing of continents, and a host of geophysical processes affecting land and sea.  Evolutionists had better revisit their assumptions about the early earth and what this does to their beliefs.
    Now that mantle plumes and deep plate tectonics are out, who knows what will happen next?  Perhaps Hamilton’s shallow plate tectonics theory will topple for other reasons.  It seems to hinder large migrations of plates, such as the belief that India migrated from lower Africa, crashed into Asia and built the Himalayas.  His choice of terms, “punctuated gradualism,” recalls Stephen Jay Gould’s punctuated equilibria, the “Alternative Earth” model in biology.  It arose out of frustration with the lack of evidence for Darwinian gradualism, not because of positive evidence for the alternative.  Gould replaced that “standard model” (neo-Darwinism) with – what? – a new model with even less empirical support, claiming, essentially, that evolution happens so fast it leaves no trace in the fossil record!  Is Hamilton’s “Punctuated gradualism” a parallel in geology?  It seems, at least, to nail the coffin shut on Lyell’s principle of uniformitarianism.  Whatever happens next, we have just seen that major paradigm shifts are still possible in science.  Kuhnians rejoice.  Darwinians beware.


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To: bondserv
Non-responsive.

Where in the bible are Germany and France mentioned? What do Germany and France have to do with specific predictions of the 9-11 attacks?
81 posted on 11/12/2003 1:04:22 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: atlaw
So if the Sox's had oil and the Yankees had none, the world would hate the Yankees because they tend to win.

World wide political impact.
82 posted on 11/12/2003 1:04:51 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: bondserv
"They are like drop-clothes laid out, before you paint the walls. "

I never drop my clothes before painting. That paint is hard to get off bare skin.
83 posted on 11/12/2003 1:24:32 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: bondserv
"Because of supernatural forces there will be no peace between Arabs and Jews, despite the fact that Britain gave Israelis only 1/6 of 1% of the land recovered from the Ottoman Empire. 99 and 5/6% of the land was given to the people of Islam.

Jerusalem has no port, no water source, and is no longer a trade pathway. Yet the cup of trembling continues to dominate the politics of the entire world. Highly Irrational.

Islamic countries, joined by Russia, will attempt to destroy Israel from the face of the earth. The pattern has been pre-woven.

"

In what way is that a specific prediction?
84 posted on 11/12/2003 1:25:12 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Where in the bible are Germany and France mentioned? What do Germany and France have to do with specific predictions of the 9-11 attacks?

It goes to their anti-God evolutionary predilections. More people go to Mosques than churches in these two countries.

Alignment is critical. We choose to love the Middle-Eastern people and send troops, money and missionaries to help them live in freedom.

Supernatural forces compelled these educated middle-easterners to attack innocent Americans on 9-11. They hate the freedom and personal accountability we exhibit in our culture. A large percentage of Americans are free in Christ. Hence the captured missionaries in Afghanistan before the war, despite them not being welcome there.

Free to help those that hate you.

85 posted on 11/12/2003 1:29:58 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: MineralMan
I never drop my clothes before painting. That paint is hard to get off bare skin.

HAHAHAAA

86 posted on 11/12/2003 1:32:09 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: bondserv
"It goes to their anti-God evolutionary predilections. More people go to Mosques than churches in these two countries.

"

France and Germany? Have you ever been there? There are churches everywhere all across both nations, and people attend them. Mosques are a bit harder to find, although they do exist in the major cities.

Just because you say something does not make it true. You're going to have to support this statement somehow or withdraw it.
87 posted on 11/12/2003 1:44:05 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: bondserv
"It goes to their anti-God evolutionary predilections. More people go to Mosques than churches in these two countries."

OK, the population of Germany is roughly 82.5 million. The Muslim population is roughly 3.2 million. That makes the Muslim population about 3.9% of the total population. From another site, 14% of the German population attends church regularly. You are wrong on that one.

France, with a population of roughly 61.1 million, has a Muslim population of about 5 million. That's just over 8%. Since an estimated 21% of the population of France attends church regularly (as of a 1991 survey), you're wrong on that one as well.

You see, it was easy to find these numbers. Just search for "church attendance countryname" on Google. Then search for "Population countryname" and "Muslim population countryname." I found all these stats within the first two hits on Google. Where did you get your information?
88 posted on 11/12/2003 1:56:16 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: dirtboy; bondserv
There is a clear line of islands and seamounts leading from the Big Island thousands of miles to the WNW - with a jog to the NW that reflects a change in the direction of the Pacific Plate (a jog reflected in other island/seamount chains in the Pacific).

Hamilton airily says "Plumes are not allowed." In this article at least, he does a lousy job of explaining why plumes are not allowed or why the Hawaiian islands actually falsify the plume concept or how those islands formed if they aren't sitting over a plume.

You can't just say that the seemingly obvious interpretation is not allowed. You have to have a good reason why your version is better. For your version to be better, you have to present a version!

89 posted on 11/12/2003 2:01:13 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: bondserv
Supernatural forces compelled these educated middle-easterners to attack innocent Americans on 9-11.

No. Belief in supernatural forces makes these people act crazy. There's a warning in that.

90 posted on 11/12/2003 2:04:08 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
"Hamilton airily says "Plumes are not allowed." In this article at least, he does a lousy job of explaining why plumes are not allowed or why the Hawaiian islands actually falsify the plume concept or how those islands formed if they aren't sitting over a plume."

Well, it's really just a speculative essay on Hamilton's part. But, it's typical of the kind of extraneous fact-grabbing the creationists do. They find anything they can that disagrees with their notions of what science says, then use a disagreement as proof that science is wrong.

Never mind that this author said nothing about a young earth or anything of the sort. It doesn't matter to the YECcers. I suspect, based on most of the discussion here by the YECcers, that none of them really even bother to read the actual articles. Instead, they find these essays on one creationist site or another and post them blindly here, paying little attention to the logic presented.

Normally, I don't bother with these threads, but this one was more specious than most.
91 posted on 11/12/2003 2:05:18 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: VadeRetro; bondserv
*Supernatural forces compelled these educated middle-easterners to attack innocent Americans on 9-11.

**No. Belief in supernatural forces makes these people act crazy. There's a warning in that.

Evidence, either way?


92 posted on 11/12/2003 2:07:32 PM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: Sabertooth
Preponderence of evidence. I have never observed a supernatural force nor seen any indirect evidence for one. I have observed many people who claim to believe in such forces.
93 posted on 11/12/2003 2:20:09 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: VadeRetro
Placemarker (gee, thanks for pinging me...).
94 posted on 11/12/2003 2:23:59 PM PST by Junior ("Your superior intellects are no match for our puny weapons!")
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To: VadeRetro
Their supernatural belief's compelled them to destroy innocent lives. The Father of Lies has his way with those who believe in the supernatural or not.

A woman is raped and chooses to abort the baby for fear it will remind her of her rape.

A woman is beaten by her husband and chooses to kill her 1 year old because the baby reminds her of her husband.

Two gay men can't find release for their lust so they anally rape a young boy and suffocate him to death.

We kill animals and humans are just smart animals...

Any idea that facilitates sin must be handled with fear and trembling.
95 posted on 11/12/2003 2:27:41 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Preponderence of evidence. I have never observed a supernatural force nor seen any indirect evidence for one.

Absence of evidence doesn't equal evidence of absence.

Science deals with natural phenomena through natural observation, and isn't equipped to confirm the presence or absence of supernatural phenomena.

Conclusions either way are leaps of faith.


96 posted on 11/12/2003 2:31:50 PM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
I have never observed a supernatural force nor seen any indirect evidence for one. I have observed many people who claim to believe in such forces.

I have tried to demonstrate some tangible reasons for you to see the truth of this Scriptural passage.

Eph 6:12-13
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

97 posted on 11/12/2003 2:33:43 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: bondserv
None of your posts has been responsive to my questions.
98 posted on 11/12/2003 2:35:03 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Hitler swayed a nation based on his charisma?
99 posted on 11/12/2003 2:35:35 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: bondserv
"Their supernatural belief's compelled them to destroy innocent lives. The Father of Lies has his way with those who believe in the supernatural or not.

A woman is raped and chooses to abort the baby for fear it will remind her of her rape.

A woman is beaten by her husband and chooses to kill her 1 year old because the baby reminds her of her husband.

Two gay men can't find release for their lust so they anally rape a young boy and suffocate him to death.

We kill animals and humans are just smart animals...

Any idea that facilitates sin must be handled with fear and trembling.'

I'm curious. How on earth did we get from a story about a new theory about the formation of this planet to the rant above? What does this have to do with the topic of this thread?
100 posted on 11/12/2003 2:36:33 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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