"The 30hr Senate Debate" --- (Live Thread)

http://www.senate.gov/ ^ | 11-12-03 | OXENinFLA

[OXENinFLA]

Well, Freepers it's going to be a looooooooooong day in the senate today, tonight, Thursday, and I'm guessing into Friday.

I figure we'll need a LIVE thread for this.

Looks like Tom Daschle is going to be speaking at 8:45am this morning followed by Frist at 9:11am

http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=

[mhking]

I have to pick Net up from school at 3:00. Could you give us an update on it?? Pretty please?

3P? They won't be into their mess until after 6P. The presser I'm talking about is literally at 3:00 tomorrow morning. I may leave the TV on with hopes of catching part of it between snores...[g]

[VRWC_minion]

I have to pick Net up from school at 3:00.

Before or after your shower ?

[Mo1]

Popcorn is on me!!!

COOL!!!

OMG .. I just saw a clip of Kerry on Jay Leno's show

He drove a motorcycle onto the set ... Bawhahahahaha

[eddie willers]

I figure we'll need a LIVE thread for this.

Where's Howlin?

[Gorjus]

So it boils down to interpretation of the rule which remains formally unchanged.

I believe this is correct, however . . .

I hope they don't change the rule (via intepretation of the chair and vote to uphold his decision). If the concept of filibuster goes away (and if they do it on judicial nominations, then it's effectively gone for everything by the same method of chair ruling), the time will come when we have a Dem President and a majority Dem Senate. I don't like to think what will happen under those circumstances.

It's true that the Dems play hardball and the Republicans are wimps, but even the threat of filibuster keeps some of the most egregious travesties out. Remember Lani Guiniere? In the history of the US, the amount of time that there was a filibuster-proof majority is pretty small, and that's a good thing, because I'd rather have nothing done (until the next election, when the price for partisan politics can be assessed) than to have unrestrained government actions when the Dems are in power.

[diotima]

Well, what have we here?

Prominent Liberal quotes:

* Tom Harkin (D-IA) "Have the guts to come out and vote up or down….And once and for all, put behind us this filibuster procedure on nominations." (Cong. Rec., 6/22/95, S8861)

* Joseph Biden (D-DE) "everyone who is nominated is entitled to have a … vote on the floor." (Cong. Rec., 3/19/97, S2540)

* Richard Durbin (D-IL) "If, after 150 days languishing on the Executive Calendar that name has not been called for a vote, it should be. Vote the person up or down." (Cong. Rec., 9/28/98, S11021)

* Carl Levin (D-MI) "If a bipartisan majority of the U.S. Senate is prepared to vote to confirm the President's appointment, that vote should occur." (Cong. Rec., 6/21/95, S8806)

* Edward Kennedy (D-MA) "If our … colleagues don't like them, vote against them. But give them a vote." (Cong. Rec., 2/3/98, S292)

* Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) "Let's bring their nominations up, debate them if necessary, and vote them up or down." (Cong. Rec., 9/11/97, S9165)

* Tom Daschle (D-SD) "I find it simply baffling that a Senator would vote against even voting on a judicial nomination." (Cong. Rec., 10/5/99, S11919)

* Patrick Leahy (D-VT) "I have stated over and over again … that I would object and fight against any filibuster on a judge, whether it is somebody I opposed or supported." (Cong. Rec, 6/18/98, S6521)

* Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) The filibuster "has unfortunately become a commonplace tactic to thwart the will of the majority." (Cong. Rec., 1/4/95, S36)

[VRWC_minion]

just saw a clip of Kerry on Jay Leno's show He drove a motorcycle onto the set ... Bawhahahahaha

Guess he can't play the sax.

[Mo1]

Where's Howlin?

I'm not sure ... she might be having computer connect problems again

[section9]

Here's the problem with changing the Senate Rules.

"The day may come when men lose all courage, break the bonds of friendship, and cease to value the fellowship of other men". When that day comes, a Democrat will return to the White House and regain control of the Senate.

When that day comes, we will need to protect the Constitution against liberal judges who think of the Bill of Rights the way a German thinks of speed limits on the Autobahn.

Strangely enough, for the long term, the moderates are right on this one. The filibuster is a tool that we must keep in reserve.

However, bear in mind that this is no endorsement of a filibuster against judicial appointments. I happen to believe that the Democrats are catering to their fundraising base, and doing so in a most craven, intellectually dishonest, fashion. But they must pay for this at the ballot box, and trust me, they will. Bush will ride these judicial nominees like a one trick pony.

And this will be worth a couple of Senate seats, I promise you.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[justshe]

Let's ping her and find out! HOWLIN!!!!!!!!!

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I figure we'll need a LIVE thread for this.

Where's Howlin?


84 posted on 11/12/2003 6:37 AM PST by eddie willers

[StriperSniper]

Kerry on Jay Leno's show

He drove a motorcycle onto the set ... Bawhahahahaha

Oh Lord! Between that and using video from GWB's carrier landing to try to prop his own manhood up, he is more pathetic than a guy with a mid-life crisis tooling down the road in a convertable Vette with his toupe flappin' in the breeze!

[Carolinamom]

Send these hypocrites' own words to Senator Hatch so that he can have a poster to display for all the world to see. Oh, how I loathe liberals and rinos.

[Mo1]

Guess he can't play the sax.

Give him time .. I'm sure he'll try that stunt too

[OXENinFLA]

(Hanging my head and rolling my eyes)

[Mo1]

(Hanging my head and rolling my eyes)

I'm laughing my butt off

I can't wait to see his next stunt .. but I'm not sure he can top his surfer dude look .. LOL

[RobbyS]

Unfortunately the judiciary has become a political branch during the last 50 years, so the name of the game has unfortunately to get as many of OUR side on the bench as possible and, especially to capture the High Court. The pubblies have the majority now. The future can take care of itself.

[OXENinFLA]

Was he wearing a "Hell's Angel" jacket?

[Mo1]

Nope .. But he was wearing his brain bucket .. you know, safety first

[justshe]

I think you've broken the all-time record for the number of hours BEFORE the LIVE EVENT occurs......that the LIVE THREAD was posted!

Kewl dude! We need a place to play...and remind all to contact our Senators before the actual event begins!

But I think we should have a side-bet....how long until someone gritches about this LIVE thread?? And I have my private guess on WHO that person will be too! :-)

[VOA]

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