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Governor Sidetracks Schiavo 's Lawsuit
Tampa Tribune ^ | Nov 12, 2003

Posted on 11/11/2003 10:17:59 AM PST by george wythe

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To: nicmarlo
Is that a Yes? THAT WOULD BE A NO.

Has Pearse changed his views in this case? THAT WOULD BE A NO.

Does Pearse now believe that his affidavit about Michael Schiavo's conflict interest is no longer applicable? THAT WOULD BE A NO.

You are dense, george

I beg to differ:

Was I missing something more clear to somebody on the inside of the case, like Pearse?

Well, yes, I was. I didn't know that Pearse's views had changed since 1998. He no longer opposes the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube.

Here's why:

Most of the medical testimony, given at trial and after Pearse issued his recommendations, concluded she would never recover.

The primary reason for Michael Schiavo's conflict of interest is gone. Only about $50,000 of the original $700,000 settlement remains. The rest reportedly went to Terri Schiavo's care and legal fees.

The case itself has been closely scrutinized by judge after judge, and their findings have been unanimous. The judges thought they knew what Terri Schiavo would have wanted.

They also found Michael Schiavo credible. Even with a conflict of interest, Pearse said, he could be right about his wife's wishes.

One day, this all must stop.

Pearse has a word for what is needed.

Finality.

That's what courts are supposed to provide, Pearse said. They are supposed to sort through our biggest disputes and put them to rest.

Once the governor and Legislature stepped in and pushed through Terri's Law, the courts were denied their usual role.

Pearse called the law stunningly bad policy.

Note to the GOP: Pearse is a Republican.


61 posted on 11/11/2003 6:02:29 PM PST by george wythe
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To: nicmarlo
In 2003, did the Second District Court of Appeals also agree with Judge Greer's ruling?

III. PROCEEDINGS ON REMAND -> THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER NO GEORGE. duh.

According to your post,

Opinion filed October 17, 2001



Are you reading your own posts?

One more time:

In 2003, did the Second District Court of Appeals also agree with Judge Greer's ruling?

Yes

62 posted on 11/11/2003 6:09:21 PM PST by george wythe
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To: FL_engineer
Since Greer is not part of these proceedings, I have no idea why you keep bringing him up.

Judge Baird is the trial judge.

If I live in Homestead, and the governor injures me, I have the right to flight a law suit in Miami-Dade County.

I don't have to travel 8 hours to Tallahassee, especially if I'm elderly or sick.

The governor's argument might not hold any water.

63 posted on 11/11/2003 6:14:10 PM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe
Here's some questions for you. Do you think it might be just a tad strange that several nurse's caring for Terri have gone on record stating the following

-that Michael has said "Why won't that b*tch die"?
- upon hearing that his wife had an infection,(and attempting to deny her antibiotics) or if he was told her condition was deteriorating - he was heard to say "I'm going to be rich"?

How about her severe contractures-because he denied Range of Motion, excercises?

How about his statement about not even allowing her teeth to be brushed because "she doesn't eat"?

Don't tell me the vicious evil bastard doesn't know about the importance of these things . He's a nurse.

Where did this pig get his education from- The Dr. Kevorkian School of Nursing?

Do you find any of this disturbing?

64 posted on 11/11/2003 6:15:26 PM PST by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democratic party. Save the USA vote a dem out of office)
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To: Lauren BaRecall
How would these questions apply to the example you made of a brain damaged infant?

I'm not trying to spell out every detail of what the law ought to be -- just making the point that the law needs to spell out enough detail to handle the difficult cases without leaving everyone wondering if decisions were made unjustly or with slimy ulterior motives. The law should be prepared to handle a situation in which, for example two parents disagree on what to do with a severely brain-damaged infant. The law might spell out a procedure for appointing a completely disinterested guardian to make a binding decision, or it might spell out that if either parent wanted the child kept alive then it must be kept alive. It's the lack of ANY clear procedures that enable a single judge or a default guardian with a conflict of interest to inappropriately steer the legal decision-making process.

65 posted on 11/11/2003 6:16:28 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: CindyDawg
"Where is the rest of the God squad?"

LOL!

66 posted on 11/11/2003 6:16:32 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: george wythe; TaxRelief; FL_engineer
perhaps it would do you well to re-read these posts with regard to Melone:

Mary Jo is at it again

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1016261/posts?page=10#10

and

I could bet a paycheck she never even spoke with Pearse.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1016261/posts?page=38#38




Perhaps you might post a more reliable source as to what Pearse allegedly said?
67 posted on 11/11/2003 6:17:45 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: fly_so_free
Do you think it might be just a tad strange that several nurse's caring for Terri have gone on record stating the following. . .

No, the anti-Schiavo nurse had a falling out with Michael Schiavo.

The head nurse does not support those stories.

68 posted on 11/11/2003 6:22:34 PM PST by george wythe
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To: nicmarlo
I stand by my source, the St Petersburg's Times.

I disagree with the columnist's opinions, but I have to accept her facts, unless another reliable source contradicts her.

The Schindlers did not recommend Pearse to Judge Baird? Why?

Now we know the answer.

Unless you have a source quoting Pearse as still in the Schindlers' camp, the record shows that Pearse changed his mind.

69 posted on 11/11/2003 6:27:11 PM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe
GREER--BAIRD, yes, when I type fast I can make those kinds of mistakes...

But now I've read more of your posts here and I'm confused...

If you are interested in helping Terri get rehabilitation and
guardianship ripped from Michael, then God bless you.

But if you are interested in arguing for "death-to-the-disabled"
then I am through discussing this with you.
70 posted on 11/11/2003 6:27:12 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: george wythe
In 2003, did the Second District Court of Appeals also agree with Judge Greer's ruling?

About what, exactly, George? Post a link to the Greer decision appealed/and the appellate opinion and then ask with specificity what it is they agreed with him on. The original issue, btw, is that Greer is a farce, not Gov. Bush.

71 posted on 11/11/2003 6:27:45 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Thanks for your post #37, expecially the nurse and nursing assistants' affidavits excerpts.

And I knew I read in more than one place that Terri can swallow.
72 posted on 11/11/2003 6:29:19 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Impeach Greer!)
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To: FL_engineer
I'm interested in the facts.

I'm also interested in reading Freeper's opinions on the legal ramifications of this case.

If you keep making non-factual statements, you will be corrected.

Good night.

73 posted on 11/11/2003 6:30:23 PM PST by george wythe
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To: Lauren BaRecall
yw; she "could" swallow; however, because of the inhumane treatment of her for so many years, that ability may also have been robbed from her....I don't know what her current situation is....however, without rehab/use, how can one get better or improve? Atrophy develops, even in healthy people.
74 posted on 11/11/2003 6:33:32 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: george wythe
it takes a villiage - to help you make end of life decisions for your spouse.

thanks florida legislature!

what would we do without you.
75 posted on 11/11/2003 6:34:26 PM PST by jethropalerobber
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To: armadale
I think most men secretly side with Michael Schiavo.

Hmmmmm...... first day, two posts and both wanting to kill Terri.

See a pattern????

76 posted on 11/11/2003 6:36:08 PM PST by Eaker (When the SHTF, I'll go down with a cross in one hand, and a Glock in the other.)
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To: TomB
"Jeb Bush Detractors can leave their apologies here."

And here's the thread for messages of support and thanks for Jeb Bush:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1005627/posts

77 posted on 11/11/2003 6:37:19 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"I'm not trying to spell out every detail of what the law ought to be -- just making the point that the law needs to spell out enough detail to handle the difficult cases without leaving everyone wondering if decisions were made unjustly or with slimy ulterior motives."

It is my own opinion that the door to death by starvation/dehydration should have never been opened. It is cruel and barbaric, but since it has, this seems to me to be a rational guideline:

If a person is not wanting food BECAUSE they are dying, then don't force feed them, but don't take away food and water when they're not dying because somebody else thinks they should be. It really seems pretty simple.

78 posted on 11/11/2003 6:37:55 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: armadale
I'm a man. Speaking for myself, I vote:

Terri's parents - yes
Michael Schiavo - no
79 posted on 11/11/2003 6:37:59 PM PST by auboy (Liberals believe in free speech… theirs not yours.)
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To: jethropalerobber
I'm with you. I've been bugged by this whole thing from the beginning. Maybe I'm the only one with pain-in-the-rear in-laws, but I think more agree with me than the posts suggest. I don't want my wife's mother making such decisions!
80 posted on 11/11/2003 6:38:04 PM PST by armadale
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