Governor Sidetracks Schiavo 's Lawsuit

Tampa Tribune ^ | Nov 12, 2003

[shhrubbery!]

I've seen her father quoted as saying she CANNOT swallow.

Doesn't matter whether Terri can swallow or not.

I understand you did not bring the topic up. But since it's been brought up (again), what exactly IS the point of people who think that "to swallow, or not to swallow" makes the difference between someone who should be "allowed" to live, and someone who should be starved to death?

This lovely young woman, whose name is Maria Tetto, cannot swallow. She suffered severe brain damage and, like Terri, was pronounced hopeless by doctors. Her parents persisted, and after six years of intensive therapy, she can now talk, tell jokes, laugh, and write in her journal.

But she cannot swallow and has to be fed via feeding tube, just as Terri is.

Should she be starved to death?

[pickyourpoison]

And just think how dissed Felos would be if this happened.

The Shindlers might get a little something too.

[Petronski]

``shameless delaying tactics.''

Oh, look everyone, at how shamelessly the Governor delays court-sanctioned murder!

For shame! . . . . on the NGFBHINO Michael Schiavo.

[Lauren BaRecall]

Not to mention, it's hearsay that Terri even said this.

Not to mention that Michael didn't mention it until 10 years after the supposed "heart attack." (And the $$$ was in the bank.)

[Lauren BaRecall]

Would you think that a Freep is in order?

[fly_so_free]

"Anyone know Hannity"

I don't know him, but I know he has talked about Terri's case on both his radio and TV shows. I'm sure he can be e-mailed at Fox News. I'm positive he would help with contacting Mark F. This case definately does need a thorough investigation. There have also been rumors that Sean lurks here on Free Republic from time to time.

[nicmarlo]

George, this is getting rather monotonous. The ORIGINAL point of my FIRST post was that GREER (and the other Kangaroo Florida Courts) is a FARCE, not Gov. Bush. That is what you continue to fail to understand (hence the "denseness").

It doesn't matter how you attempt to side-step that issue with what you post about what Greer allowed into the court as evidence, or how the Appellate Court ruled on what Greer ordered. It's already been shown he won't allow all the necessary evidence in, and even when he does, he doesn't look at it all if it's contrary to what he agrees with. The fact that the Appellate Court doesn't care about that shows they are nothing but a farce, either.

Furthermore, this entire case would have no legs had it not relied solely upon MS's hearsay evidence (and his brother and his brother's wife's hearsay evidence) (which Greer calls "clear and convincing evidence") that Terri said she'd rather die than have life-sustaining machines on her. (And "life-sustaining" machines in this case is FOOD.) And even though MS has proven himself to have committed perjury, that Greer can even continue on with this farce shows that Greer doesn't even care about lies, as long as those lies sound better than the truth of other witnesses, such as nurses, doctors, and friends of Terri who detract from anything MS has said.

That's why Greer and his masquerade of "justice" is such a farce and you've been able to post nothing that can refute his partiality and farcical rulings. Greer is not a capable, fair, and wise judge, as pertains to this case, at the very least.

In addition:

1) The power of the court to make life or death decisions in cases like this is NOT statutory. Rather, it was set out IN in the Browning decision.

and

2) Subsequent to the Browning decision, FL statutes were revised to provide for the GUARDIAN to make life/death decisions. But in Terri's case, the decision HAS NOT BEEN MADE by the guardian -- instead, it has been made by JUDGE GREER, pursuant to the dicta in Browning. And this violates the express provisions of the current FL statutes..

You can read about that in the Amicus Brief filed by Rep. Byrd

[shhrubbery!]

Terri Schiavo's brain was damaged in 1990 when she suffered heart failure at the age of 26.

Reporters continue to get the facts wrong.

Terri was not and is not suffering from "heart failure," in the sense in which this term is most commonly used:

Heart failure: The inability of the heart to pump blood at an adequate rate, resulting in congestion in the lungs, shortness of breath, edema in the lower extremities, and enlargement of the liver.

Terri's heart stopped for several minutes. The cause has not been adequately explained. But she she did not have "heart failure."

[Theodore R.]

I think most men secretly side with Michael Schiavo.


If true, the USA should just surrender now to all enemies -- foreign and domestic. We are finished, if what you think is true. And you may be right.

[Lauren BaRecall]

Yep, I know he has covered Terri.

Well, patriot40068 put up the email addy of Mark F. Let's email both him and Hannity.

Where's the "God Squad?"

[HiTech RedNeck]

Remember that if MS and Felos are to maintain their contention that Terri is already dead, they *can't* allow her even the most ordinary of comforts. Once a pro-death court (Greer, et al) acknowledges *any* lack of care as untoward, the flood gates open to admittance that Terri is disabled and entitled to Consitutional rights.

Quite so; thank you for your very insightful comment. They had to keep up the "Terri is gone" facade. That is, except when they lament about the "suffering" of a "vegetable." Is this two faced or what?

The ghouls are out in force again tonight.

[eleni121]

It is a matter of her rights being ``violated on a daily basis'' versus Bush ``having to defend the case on its merits even though the sheriff did not knock on his door and serve him with a summons.''

Her rights? Her rights? What would this scumbag felos know about anyone's rights? What lagoon did this creature crawl out of?

This is the same line of crap that leftist liberals spout when confronted by debate over moral issues...They think that they have the insight to decide other people's rights. Only Terri herself has the right to ask for her rights and absent her ability to do so, then state has the moral legal ethical obligation to protect her from murder.

[honeygrl]

"Bottom line: the courts DO NOT have the last say"

CP doesn't like to hear that because he's a lawyer. It takes away from his power trip.

[george wythe]

I disagree with your assessment of Judge Greer.

Nevertheless, I did not call you dense.

Judge Greer did not have to appoint a guardian ad litem, and both the appellate court and the Florida Supreme Court ruled on this matter.

It is settled law.

From the Second District Court of Appeals:

Under these circumstances, the two parties, as adversaries, present their evidence to the trial court. The trial court determines whether the evidence is sufficient to allow it to make the decision for the ward to discontinue life support. In this context, the trial court essentially serves as the ward's guardian. Although we do not rule out the occasional need for a guardian in this type of proceeding, a guardian ad litem would tend to duplicate the function of the judge, would add little of value to this process, and might cause the process to be influenced by hearsay or matters outside the record. Accordingly, we affirm the trial court's discretionary decision in this case to proceed without a guardian ad litem.

At any rate, I have not report you for abuse. I want the record to speak for itself. Who is involved in juvenile name-calling?

[nicmarlo]

Speaking the truth is not abuse. Yes, let's let the record speak for itself, George.

[HiTech RedNeck]

It is settled law.

The law settles quite often for evil. That doesn't make it not evil.

[sruleoflaw]

I don't know why ANYONE would support a vile person like Michael Schiavo. Only the lefties, the ACLU, the right-to-die crowd, the pro-aborts and the Dems are with the double-dealing husband who spends Terri's therapy money on lawyers to kill her. What a deal!!!

[george wythe]

The record:

To: nicmarlo

Has Pearse change his views in this case? Does Pearse now believe that his affidavit about Michael Schiavo's conflict interest is no longer applicable?

Good question; but since Judge Greer in effect removed him, that's just something else that's "no longer relevant," is it?

Is that a Yes?

Has Pearse changed his views in this case? Yes

Does Pearse now believe that his affidavit about Michael Schiavo's conflict interest is no longer applicable? Yes

54 posted on 11/11/2003 5:52 PM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe

Is that a Yes? THAT WOULD BE A NO.

Has Pearse changed his views in this case? THAT WOULD BE A NO.

Does Pearse now believe that his affidavit about Michael Schiavo's conflict interest is no longer applicable? THAT WOULD BE A NO.


You are dense, george

55 posted on 11/11/2003 5:55 PM PST by nicmarlo
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[Krodg]

a complete reading of this very thread would reveal the documentation to debunk said lie. do your own homework.

I've done my homework and I didn't rely on one article on one thread to support my posistion.

btw, i didn't get that bit about "contacting the Admins" - what is that?

I've never hit the abuse button before (you never know who is an ADMIN)but you make that option mighty tempting.