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Will Democrats Select the General of the Waco Siege As Their Presidential Nominee?
Chuck Baldwin Ministries ^ | 11-11-03 | Baldwin, Chuck

Posted on 11/11/2003 4:50:16 AM PST by Theodore R.

Will Democrats Select The General Of The Waco Siege As Its Presidential Nominee?

By Chuck Baldwin

Food For Thought From The Chuck Wagon

November 11, 2003 An October 28 report in Insight magazine reminded us that the Democratic presidential candidate and now-retired four-star general, Wesley Clark, was the Army commander who used U.S. soldiers and military hardware against American civilians in the federal assault against the Branch Davidians which violated the Posse Comitatus Act and resulted in the massacre of nearly ninety lives, including old men, women, and children.

To be sure, General Clark possesses a plethora of great distinctions. He graduated first in his class at West Point. He was a Rhodes scholar, a decorated Vietnam combat veteran, a White House fellow, and Supreme Commander of NATO. However, his role at the disastrous assault of the Branch Davidians outside Waco, Texas, leaves many questions about his fitness to be entrusted with America's civil liberties.

According to Insight, "Between August 1992 and April 1994, Clark was commander of the 1st Cavalry Division of the Army's III Corps at Fort Hood, Texas. According to a report by the U.S. Department of the Treasury, the list of military personnel and equipment used at Waco included: 15 active-duty military personnel, 13 Texas National Guard personnel, nine Bradley fighting vehicles, five combat-engineer vehicles, one tank-retrieval vehicle and two M1A1 Abrams tanks. Additionally, Fort Hood reportedly was used for much of the training for the bloody attack on the Davidians and their children."

The report quotes West Point graduate Joseph Mehrten Jr. as saying, "It is of critical importance that such vehicles could not have been moved for use at Waco without Clark's knowledge."

Many will excuse Clark's decision to use military personnel and hardware against American civilians as being justified by saying, "He was only following orders." Mehrten's response to that argument is, "To follow that order is to follow a blatantly illegal order of a kind every West Point officer knows is a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. Clark's obligation was to say, 'No, I'm not going to do it.'"

Mehrten continues, "Look, Clark went to the same institution I did and at West Point we had extensive instruction in military ethics and issues concerning how one avoids obeying an illegal military order. It is drilled into our heads from the earliest days as cadets that the 'I-was-just-following-orders' defense isn't necessarily a good one."

Before people elect Wesley Clark as their president, these issues need to be resolved. Why did General Clark allow U.S. military forces, including armored vehicles and tanks to be used in a massacre of American civilians? Who gave him such an order? Was it then-governor of Texas Ann Richards? Was it Janet Reno or Bill Clinton?

Other questions Clark needs to answer are: What is his understanding of the Posse Comitatus Act? Does he believe it is proper for military forces to be used against American citizens? Would he ever authorize such action?

To date, General Clark has never been called upon to answer these questions. He wasn't even asked to testify before the congressional committee investigating the circumstances at Waco. The American people need to hear his answers to these questions!

The Waco tragedy still haunts the American conscience! That nearly ninety Americans, most of whom were old people, women, and children, could be mercilessly gunned down or burned alive at the hands of U.S. military personnel and federal agents eats like a cancer at our nation's character! That General Clark may have participated in both the act and the resultant cover-up is very serious!

Michael McNulty, an investigative journalist and Oscar nominee for his documentary, "Waco: The Rules of Engagement," said, "Whatever he (General Clark) did, he at least is guilty of being a good German, following orders."

However, with the federal government's fascination with continued infringements upon the American people's rights and liberties, the last thing we need is a "good German" for president!

© Chuck Baldwin


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: annrichards; branchdavidians; clark; clinton; democrats; goodgerman; janetreno; possecomitatus; president; waco

1 posted on 11/11/2003 4:50:17 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Nope.
2 posted on 11/11/2003 4:51:50 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Freedom isn't Free - Support the Troops & Vets!!)
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To: Theodore R.
That nearly ninety Americans, most of whom were old people, women, and children, could be mercilessly gunned down or burned alive at the hands of U.S. military personnel and federal agents eats like a cancer at our nation's character!

Does it? Really? Baldwin's problem is his hyperbole borders on hysteria...

3 posted on 11/11/2003 4:54:39 AM PST by carton253 (To win the War on Terror, raise at once the black flag!)
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To: Theodore R.
bttt
4 posted on 11/11/2003 4:55:27 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Theodore R.
This arkancide scum was involved in the killing of more
Christians and cult christians, then terrorists.
5 posted on 11/11/2003 4:55:55 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (CCCP = clinton, chiraq, chretien, and putin = stalin wannabes)
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To: Theodore R.
Clark used massive military equipment to murder Americans in Waco and bomb innocent Serbs in Yugoslavia. This dude's a psycho!
6 posted on 11/11/2003 4:56:43 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Theodore R.
no
7 posted on 11/11/2003 5:01:02 AM PST by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: Theodore R.
WOuld respond to this excellent article-but my wife is
already convinced the Feds are massing for an attack by
the boys in black nija suits with helicopters and assault
rifles--because of my decided suspicions concenring our
national govt. post WACO The Big Lie.So being the good
husband who always does what mamma says I will merely say
In my own way I hope the Dems do pick Wes--Or Kerry -can't
think of two military men I'd rather oppose politically
speaking.of course.
8 posted on 11/11/2003 5:01:42 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: Theodore R.
In America it seems that no evil deed goes unrewarded.
9 posted on 11/11/2003 5:12:52 AM PST by The Duke
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To: The Duke
Gen. Wesley Clark is the Bob Dole of the Democrats. Although Bob certainly had a far better and more ethical background, a member of congress for many years, he had no chance of winning the Republican nomination, and everyone but Bob knew it.
10 posted on 11/11/2003 5:17:40 AM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: The Duke
In America it seems that no evil deed goes unrewarded.


Yea, we used to say the converse of that: "No good deed goes unpunished!!!!"
11 posted on 11/11/2003 6:32:06 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Actually, I believe that Clark is NOT a native Arkansan. I believe that I read he was born in Chicago and would have been a little boy when the first Mayor Daley was in office.
12 posted on 11/11/2003 6:34:14 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
They are so out of touch with the American main stream, that they usurp the bragging rights to representing, that they just might make that fatal error. I hope so.

The democrats are so use to usurping everything from our money to our private property to our soverignty that they cannot imagine that while claiming title to, they can never really attain ownership rights to the mainstream.
13 posted on 11/11/2003 6:52:48 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Theodore R.
Thanks for posting.

IMO- Clark is a war criminal, of course so was/is Klinton.

It's amazing this didn't air-out till now.

If he won I bet he would re-appoint his old pal Jack Reno as Attorney General!!
14 posted on 11/11/2003 7:15:28 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: All
Time magazine attempted to smear Lt. Gen. Boykin by intimating that he told Janet Reno what gas to use at Waco. Here's a news link that reports on just what the special forces did and did not do.

Army reportedly declined to review FBI approach to Waco siege "Can't grade your paper" From CNN National Security Producer Chris Plante, August 31, 1999 Web posted at: 2:41 a.m. EDT (0641 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, August 31) -- Just days before the fiery end to the Waco standoff, top Army Special Forces officials were asked to offer their views of an FBI assault plan for the Branch Davidian compound but refused to do so, CNN has learned. . . According to a once-secret Army memo, Gen. Peter Jan Schoomaker, who was in charge of a special forces unit at the time, declined to provide an assessment of the FBI plan for the siege of the compound. [end excerpt]

Boykin was with Brig. Gen. Schoomaker. (See article)

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/08/31/fbi.waco/

15 posted on 11/11/2003 7:17:40 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: Theodore R.; All
Here is a link to the insight article.

http://www.insightmag.com/news/525789.html
16 posted on 11/11/2003 7:20:20 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: MHGinTN
M,

you might find this interesting?

K
17 posted on 11/11/2003 7:21:15 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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