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Parsing the Propaganda of the Junk Scientists
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| Nov. 10, 2003
| Ralph de Toledano
Posted on 11/10/2003 11:58:55 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Paul Ehrlich I though he was dead, neo-malthusian scum.
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posted on
11/10/2003 12:06:00 PM PST
by
Little Bill
(The Bard of Avon Rules, The Duke of Cambridge was a Mincing Quean.)
To: Tailgunner Joe
"WOLF! WOLF!"
Yet no wolf has appeared. And people still respond to the alarm?
Bad enough we have a "terror alert" going off every so often, but at least there is some basis in fact for the warnings that go out.
Environmental concerns are spun up out of only a very small snippet of reality, and few if any of them have proven to have the effects predicted.
To: Tailgunner Joe
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posted on
11/10/2003 12:16:56 PM PST
by
backhoe
(The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)...)
To: alloysteel
When is McCain up for election again?
He is being a barely useful idiot lately.
Just what party does he belong to?
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posted on
11/10/2003 12:21:38 PM PST
by
ridesthemiles
(ridesthemiles)
To: Tailgunner Joe
Just remember that the underlying force driving all these junk science actions is money. Follow the research bucks and you'll see the government and looney foundtions funding the research. Sure political agendas promote and give exposure to these fruitcake scientists. But the sustaining force is OUR tax money.
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posted on
11/10/2003 12:49:48 PM PST
by
Laserman
To: ridesthemiles
When is McCain up for election again? . . . Just what party does he belong to?
The Party of John McCain, of course. Platform comprised of one element: Power and prestige through pandering to the media.
Admittedly, most adherents to that platform are part of the Democratic party, but McCain's prestige comes from being 'a maverick' so admitting to any common ground with anyone else is verbotten.
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posted on
11/10/2003 1:03:47 PM PST
by
Gorjus
To: Tailgunner Joe
READ LATER
To: http://www.freerepublic.com/pe
BTTT
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posted on
11/10/2003 2:21:57 PM PST
by
neverdem
(Say a prayer for New York both for it's lefty statism and the probability the city will be hit again)
To: Tailgunner Joe
Sprayed on crops and ingested by birds such as the eagle, DDT caused a softening of their egg shells. That one isn't true either.
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posted on
11/10/2003 2:45:36 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex to be managed by central planning.)
To: *Global Warming Hoax
To: *Global Warming Hoax
To: Tailgunner Joe
And you didn't ping me? When will you learn?
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posted on
11/10/2003 9:16:51 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: Tailgunner Joe; AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
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I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
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posted on
11/10/2003 9:18:09 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: Tailgunner Joe
There was an article several years ago wherein environmentalists were complaining that no one was listening to them. So they set up a new strategy of exaggerating (sp?) their claims that "the sky is falling" in order to convince the public.
Does anyone know what study I am referring to, or perhaps have a link? (O-Kay -- I admit that I plan to use this in my on-going "discussions" with my daughter who has a masters in environmental science)
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posted on
11/10/2003 9:43:15 PM PST
by
bjcintennessee
(Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
To: Tailgunner Joe
...Environ-MENTAL-ist...BUMP...
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posted on
11/10/2003 10:52:15 PM PST
by
MayDay72
(My vehicle, my choice. Keep your laws off my SUV!)
To: Carry_Okie
Sprayed on crops and ingested by birds such as the eagle, DDT caused a softening of their egg shells. -From article
That one isn't true either. -Carry_Okie
Interesing. I've often heard the "soft egg shell" and DDT connection mentioned by the scientific community. Especially here in California in relation to the California Condor. Has this now been proven as untrue?
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posted on
11/10/2003 10:59:32 PM PST
by
MayDay72
(My vehicle, my choice. Keep your laws off my SUV!)
To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!
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posted on
11/11/2003 3:01:31 AM PST
by
E.G.C.
To: MayDay72
DDT breaks down into other chemicals, and it's those chemicals that have the effect on the eggs.
I've heard of two possible mechanisms. The first is that the chemicals weaken the eggs.
The second possible mechanism is that DDT makes birds healthier by killing off their parasites. Then, the birds have huge clutches of eggs. However, they don't eat enough calcium to produce thick shells on all the eggs. So, the birds crush their own huge brood by sitting on them.
Apparently, in captivity, the birds will have good eggs even if they are fed DDT. This is because they are well fed in captivity, compared to the wild.
Still, it's pretty undeniable that as DDT and its' components have declined in the wild, large birds have rebounded and do not have soft eggs anymore.
The pro-DDT sites should not be considered neutral. That said, DDT is a useful chemical because of its' cheapness and effectiveness. It still can be used in the USA if needed to stomp out a disease carrying mosquitos, etc. It also can act as a repellent to some insects, too.
It shouldn't be used in agriculture because this builds up a resistance in the insect population that only time can remove. This is bad for wildlife populations and human populations. Think disease again - you don't want the mosquito population to be resistant to DDT when you are trying to eliminate some yellow fever outbreak.
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posted on
11/11/2003 3:20:23 AM PST
by
Gladwin
To: Little Bill
Paul Ehrlich Paul Ehrlich is truly a phenomenon. He has never been right about anything in his life (or at least in his "scientific" predictions), but yet his following goes on and on. It never ceases to amaze me.
I have a "friend" (the kind that drives a clapped out 10 year old Mazda with save the whales bumper stickers) who stopped talking to me two years ago because I commented to him, "who would be a big enough idiot to keep believing Paul Ehrlich?" Apparently he is one. However, he hates business, somehow blaming "corporations" for the fact that he lived his life as a sort of second rate academic and now in his 60's can't afford anything except clapped out mazdas - Ehrlich's prophecies of doom fit his wordview. It is a combination of envy and religious socialsm I suppose.
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posted on
11/11/2003 3:36:20 AM PST
by
from occupied ga
(Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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