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Door May Be Open for Hil (Hillary Clinton in '04 Alert)
NY Daily News ^ | 11.09.2003 | Michael R. Blood

Posted on 11/09/2003 7:12:05 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick

Door may be open for Hil

With no Dem front-runner, pros say she could step in

With none of the Democratic presidential wanna-bes rising out of the teens in national polls, some political experts are theorizing that it could happen - Sen. Hillary Clinton gets into the race.

"If nobody ... solidifies a position by mid-March, I think you are going to find a real surge and opportunity for someone like Hillary," said Donald Robinson, a professor of government at Smith College.

"It presents, maybe for the first time since 1952, [the chance] of a candidate coming from outside the pack," Robinson added.

"As long as Hillary is around, she is always going to be the Cinderella candidate, whether it's now or four months from now," said Democratic consultant Norman Adler.

Clinton has said she will not be a candidate in 2004, but it hasn't been missed that she trounces the Democratic candidates in national polls.

The senator may be prodded to get into it by concern that former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean could win the nomination.

Although Dean leads the pack with only 17%, his prospects were bolstered last week when two of the country's largest unions indicated that he was their man.

Sources close to the New York senator and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, have made it clear that they think the dovish Dean would be ruinous for the Democratic Party. Those concerns were factors in Bill Clinton's behind-the-scenes urging of retired Gen. Wesley Clark to throw his hat in. But Clark has yet to take command of the race.

The Democratic primary calendar was shuffled after the last election to select a nominee early and give the candidate plenty of time to raise cash for the fight with Bush.

Instead, the change is threatening to leave Democrats without a clear-cut front-runner and the nominee, presumably determined by mid-March, could be someone largely unknown to many voters.

One Democratic nightmare is that Rep. Dick Gephardt wins Iowa, Dean takes New Hampshire and Sen. John Edwards tops the pack in South Carolina. No one drops out and no one catches fire.

By some accounts, it's possible Democrats could go to their July convention without a certain nominee for the first time in decades.

The possibility of an unsettled convention is not an idle matter among some Democrats.

"If we get 38% percent on the first ballot, who do we go to" to get the other 12%? asked one strategist whose campaign is tracking rivals' delegates in case they need to be picked off at the convention.

The notion of a last-minute Clinton candidacy would depend on her being able to quickly change her public stance and mobilize support.

It's clear that Clinton isn't getting into the early primaries. The deadline for candidates to get on the primary ballot in Missouri - a key swing state - is just nine days away. The deadline in New Hampshire, which holds the nation's first primary on Jan. 27, is Nov. 21. Others quickly follow.

The strategy of skipping those contests would defy the accepted wisdom of presidential politics that the nominee must get in early and win knockouts in first-round primaries like Iowa and New Hampshire.

"She's too late for Iowa and probably too late for New Hampshire. But of course she's Hillary and might not need Iowa and New Hampshire," Adler said.

"No one but her could go from a standing start in Iowa to winning," said GOP strategist Rick Wilson. "It's not impossible but neither is it easy."



TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2004; 666; antichrist; blackpantsuit; booba; clinton; godhelpus; hildabeaste; hillary; hillaryclinton; oldcrusty; rodham; whoreofbabylon
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To: Qwinn
I don't even believe she will run in '08. When she announces, all the vile corruption will float to the top again. Where's the silverware? What pardons? Who killed themselves? All that crap would have the crust scraped off and start smelling to high heaven again. Kinda like Teddy Kennedy running again. How long did it take for you to report the wreck?

She cannot win in the red states, and there will be more red in '04.

41 posted on 11/09/2003 8:05:39 PM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles
She ain't running in '04. Will not happen. Period.
42 posted on 11/09/2003 8:10:01 PM PST by TheBigB (Check out my new pic at the FReeper Photo Album home page!)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
The plan is, and has always been, as follows:

1) Sabotage the 2004 Dimo candidates. The First Grifters cannot afford to have a Dimo win in 2004. Given two terms, this would leave Hitlery a washed up hag by 2012. Even her "husband", child, and pets will want nothing to do with her by then. "General" Clark has been particularly helpful in this regard.

2) Sabotage GW's approval ratings, through relentless attacks by the Dims and negative reportage by the sychophant media. Lately, the Dims on the Senate Intelligence Committee have erroneously revealed their part in the plan.

3) If GW looks vulnerable enough by March 2004, "grudgingly" agree to accept the nomination of the party by "popular demand" of the Dimo sheeple.

IMIO, this sociopath actually believes that she is Evita Peron revisited.

43 posted on 11/09/2003 8:10:16 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("...the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.")
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Clinton has said she will not be a candidate in 2004, but it hasn't been missed that she trounces the Democratic candidates in national polls.

Correction .. she said she has no "intention" of being a canidate

There IS a difference

44 posted on 11/09/2003 8:10:22 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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Hilary will run ...it is a done deal . The rest of these rats are just going through the motions . She will arise to save the Democratic party and the nation at the convention .
45 posted on 11/09/2003 8:10:27 PM PST by sushiman
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To: NYC GOP Chick
With none of the Democratic presidential wanna-bes rising out of the teens in national polls, some political experts are theorizing that it could happen - Sen. Hillary Clinton gets into the race.

"If nobody ... solidifies a position by mid-March, I think you are going to find a real surge and opportunity for someone like Hillary," said Donald Robinson, a professor of government at Smith College.

(yawn) Surprise, surprise.
I think everybody had this figured out over a year ago, even before she made it even more obvious (if that's possible) by throwing Clark into the mix when Dean started getting too comfortable.

46 posted on 11/09/2003 8:11:36 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: NYC GOP Chick
As long as Hillary is around, she is always going to be the Cinderella candidate

It's humorous how the dims keep playing with themselves. She doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell to win a presidential election.

47 posted on 11/09/2003 8:21:17 PM PST by paul51
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To: Flux Capacitor
No. She would be ruinous for the country, but not for the party.
48 posted on 11/09/2003 8:21:37 PM PST by Buck W.
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To: ladyinred
You can tell that this "journalist" is still trying to play catch-up and really doesn't have much of a grasp. Of course, he could be a new hire from some college weekly somewhere.

Note the last few paragraphs where he gets into "Iowa" and "New Hampshire" and "the ballots" and "the accepted wisdom of presidential politics", hahahaaa....!

As we know around here, Hillary has no intention of getting dirty with a bunch of silly "primary" nonsense. She will scoop the nomination at a chaotic Democrat convention, which will follow a primary season that failed to produce a clear consensus candidate - - just like she planned all along.

Primaries..... LOFL!!!
49 posted on 11/09/2003 8:22:56 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: NYC GOP Chick
The notion of a last-minute Clinton candidacy would depend on her being able to quickly change her public stance and mobilize support

You and me both. Here is STILL my scenario.

She accepts a draft at the convention. It lets her off the hook as she will say she kept her promise by not running. She'll say.."I was drafted and I must answer my country's call".
If she loses, she can still run as a senator in 2006 and she will no longer be held to the promise not to run for president in '08.

Course, by 08 she will need to have a portrait in her attic.
50 posted on 11/09/2003 9:05:07 PM PST by stylin19a (is it vietnam yet ?)
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To: All
willy boy was the best thing that ever happened to the republicans.

In '92 we had 60 fewer house memebers
9 fewer senators
a slew fewer govenors,
that b*&^h will be the second best thing that ever happend to the republicans
(after of course, collidge, reagan and W)
51 posted on 11/09/2003 9:06:30 PM PST by genghis
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To: chuckles
When she announces, all the vile corruption will float to the top again. Where's the silverware? What pardons? Who killed themselves? All that crap would have the crust scraped off and start smelling to high heaven again.

Yeah, all that stuff will be all over the airwaves, just like the Communist Chinese money, Juanita Brodderick, and the Rockefeller memo.

52 posted on 11/09/2003 10:15:38 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("You're it!")
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To: SoDak
For the chillins I'm sure.
53 posted on 11/10/2003 12:46:57 AM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: ladyinred
Horny?
54 posted on 11/10/2003 12:54:24 AM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Please allow me, yet once again, to disabuse my fellow FREEPERS, of any and ALL of their tinfoil.

This article, as with others like it,has been written by someone who yearns for Hitlery! to be president, but does NOT know, nor understand the way Conventions work now. Neither do those pontificating about : no front runner ", have the slightest idea about how the 9 dwarves have been/are/shall make out in the primaries. Dean IS ahead and the momentum, which he is going to get, after the first three, IS going to propell him farther .

TINFOIL ALERT ! That's precisely what THIS and every other article/vanity post here about Hitlery! running/being annointed, in '04, is. That's it; case closed.

55 posted on 11/10/2003 1:02:17 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Jeff Chandler
"Yeah, all that stuff will be all over the airwaves, just like the Communist Chinese money, Juanita Brodderick, and the Rockefeller memo."

And to the majority of the electorate will have the same yawning effect. Most of that stuff was never known or acknowledged by the largest majority of the people.

Don't think she will have a press control team, and press assistance that will rival the soviet union and far outshine bills little bimbo control efforts.
56 posted on 11/10/2003 2:00:19 AM PST by JSteff
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Mrs. Clinton has been running and running hard with her book of living lies. She has cris-crossed the country and been to EU, peddling her issues, mainly to bash President Bush. She is waiting to be drafted which will be as easy as taking candy from a baby with the Democratic hopeful line up. No one, not even Mrs. Clinton, (wife of a sexual predator who wants back in our White House) has one truly new idea. They are all out of touch with America, repeating the same old and tired mantras about SS, Health, Education, Welfare...you name it, they had eight long, scandalous years to fix those thing. Instead they plundered the country but told you how much they were doing for each and every state. Well, their way burns forests, starts wars, and puts as many people as possible back-on-welfare and a given, is raising your taxes!!

Mrs. Clinton would in a heart beat given the chance, will install The Third Way - pure socialism, end America’s Sovereignty and toss her tattered and torn Constitution out once and for all. This is not Cinderella, this is the ugly, stepsister in all her gory glory.

To keep from having to answer real questions, ones not pre-scripted for her, she will await the draft from her base – those not endorsing any of those running now known by their silence. I could be wrong, but I am not aware of any Republican power brokers with shady pasts, the Clintons have nothing but shady power brokers starting with Harold Ickes. What has happened to Paul? The man who claims the Clintons didn’t report his donation of $2 Million or what ever, what is going on with him. It seems to me Mrs. Clinton has far too many still unsolved scandalous clouds hanging over her head to take the chance of running for the White House.

I take sheer delight in reminding all Freepers it is their duty to keep those scandals alive, reminding America why this woman is unfit to be president now or ever. She is really unfit to be in the United States Senate and knowing that, I doubt she will leave that chair to try for another.

57 posted on 11/10/2003 8:12:54 AM PST by yoe (Term Limits - and 2 terms are the limit for all elected to a Federal office!!)
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To: LADY J
Ha Ha!! Cinderella?

She might have part in Cinderella, just not in the title role. She could play all three of ugly stepsisters. And it looks like that may just be what happens at the DemonRat ball.

58 posted on 11/10/2003 1:32:56 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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