The 2004 Election is Over, Now

Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 11 November 2003 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

[Jim Noble]

What Southern state could Hillary win? Tennessee? West Virginia? Arkansas?

Any one with women in it.

There are women in Tennessee, West Virginia, and Arkansas, are there not?

[crabbie]

IMHO, I keep going back to McCain as the Perot in 2004. He grits his teeth and smiles as he professes to support GWB, but his hatred for the man is so obvious. He undercuts the Administration every chance he gets. Note the latest comments the other day. I have a feeling that he will leave the GOP and run as an independent so as to prevent a second term for GWB at any cost, no matter how detrimental to the country.

[hflynn]

Elenor Rosevelt tells me things when i visit the latrine

You had me worried I thought you might be having conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt.

[crabbie]

PULL-EASE!!!!! Do not delude yourselves into believing that women will automatically vote for her. She is a disgrace to educated women, self respecting women, married women, stay at home women, single women,...shall I continue?

[WileyC]

Democrats have NOT been able to count on small donors for a long time. Why does Dean suddenly have all these donors?

Because he has, to put it brutally, excited all the marginalized freaks of the Democratic party that are unhappy with anyone who tries to become more centrist. They project onto him their vision of the ideal candidate (i.e. one that thinks just like they do) long enough to get out their credit cards (internet donations, remember).

The only person this crowd despises more than Bush is Clinton. He was the shining hope that tricked them with honeyed words and beguiling promises. One thing that Dean has that all the other candidates lack is a certain amount of credibility in his stated opinions. He's losing that daily, true, but we're talking about donations in the past, not future.

[Miss Marple]

By now, I think McCain would win more votes from the Rat side of the aisle than the Pubbies. Most Republican GWB supporters are wise to him and simply tolerate him. Arizona sure knows his tricks.

He would lose every primary he ran in (with perhaps the exception of those open primaries, and even then I think he would lose, because the democrats need to vote in their own primaries this time).

His major danger would be as an attack dog on Bush and the sound bites he would get on the evening news.

I don't think he has enough support to mount a campaign, however. It costs money and I don't think he has any.

[HateBill]

I doubt you'd find a majority of Southern women supporting Hillary. She has about the same constituency as Janet Reno. Remember the Democratic gubernatorial primary and you'd see all the doddering old biddies and Rosie O'Donnell look-alikes fawning all over Reno? That's what Hillary's voters in the main would be.

There are many women on FR. We probably hate her more than the guys do!

[RJCogburn]

I think it's not about Dean if we continue to loose brave Americans in Iraq at the rate we lost them this pasy week.

[Miss Marple]

Hillary is a fraud and I am going to rant! Fair warning!

She is neither smart, accomplished, or an achiever. Every single professional position she has ever had, from her Rose Law Firm days, to the Wal-Mart Board, to her Senate seat, were positions she got because of her husband!!

She didn't raise her child herself, makes no attempt to understand the needs of real working women, holds those who are less educated in contempt, sucks up to Hollywood stars for cash, grovels and denigrates America to Europeans, and would run over her own mother if she thought by doing so she could amass power.

She hates most Americans, hates most women, hates most men, hates the military, and hates Christians.

She is an awful, evil person and should never be given any more power. I want her out of the Senate and out of public life.

/rant> (Don't say I didn't warn you! LOL!)

[Eastbound]

Great insight and excellent summation, BB.

fuzzthatwuz,

" Better she sit in the cat bird's seat watching her competition destroy their credibility (with a little help from her friends of course) and descend at the last possible moment as the "savior" by Democratic Party mandate"

I've read that prediction here when she first became senator. Too much laundry to tote, that gal. She'll just wear the same old dirty clothes when she casually walks into the convention center at the last possible instant -- expecting palm leaves to be thrown in her path and a 'halleluja' choir to lift her onto a donkey to clip-clop down the isle. I'd bet on it.

[TEXOKIE]

bttt

[Koblenz]

I would be highly surprised if Dean or Kerry or Gephardt or Lieberman or Edwards lost Massachusetts or Rhode Island. I'd say that based on the situation the Illinois Republican party finds itself, Illinois is going to be a pretty safe state for the Dems. Maine, at least the one electoral vote, is pretty certain to go the Dems. NJ is going to be tough for the Republicans to carry. Maryland could happen, but I certainly wouldn't be even money on the Republicans carrying it. Republicans face an uphill fight in Michigan too. I think that California is definitely possible for the Republicans, but again, I wouldn't put even money on that. Same with Oregon.

Don't get me wrong, I think Bush will win. But I just don't see any Democrat getting under 100 electoral votes. And I wouldn't be stunned if the Dem got 200 electoral votes. After all, Al Gore got 269.

[zbigreddogz]

Yes, but people have to remember, in order to run in 08, she has to hold on to her Senate seat, which she will, most likely, if one man doesn't stop her. That man's name is

Rudy Guliani

I hope he doesn't wimp out and run for Governor in 06.

[fuzzthatwuz]

...expecting palm leaves to be thrown in her path...

I would prefer subpoenas be thrown in her path. Hope springs eternal!

[hflynn]

And your point is?

My point? Yogi Berra proves to be smarter than two more people, Professor Deutsch and you.

[WileyC]

At the political table, unlike the poker table, there is no option of throwing in the hand and waiting for the next deal.

Sure there is, my friend. It's called Hillary '08. =)

[WileyC]

She is a disgrace to educated women, self respecting women, married women, stay at home women, single women,...shall I continue?

Ah, but she is adored by stupid and fuzzy-headed women. And stupidity trumps any of those other categories!

[Congressman Billybob]

Yep, both Bushes are also somes of Eli. In my day, Yale was about evenly split in the student body between conservative and liberal. There were only a few "red diaper" babies among the students, and we largely ignored them.

The split on the faculty was even then (in the 60's) more liberal than conservative. But that never bothered us, because we were able enough in the classrooms not to be buffaloed by rants, rather than facts. Our Chaplain, William Sloane Coffin, was the rankest, bleeding-heart leftist on campus. Few of us took him as anything but a public joke.

Today, unfortunately, the University has deteriorated substantially at both the faculty and student levels, based on my reading of reporting from there, and especially occasional leftist ranks that now pass for news articles in the Yale Daily News where I was once an Editor (serving with Joe Lieberman, then Chairman of the News).

John / Billybob

[Congressman Billybob]

Send your check to me, instead of Dean. LOL. Dean has all the money he needs to destroy the Democrats. I still need more to accomplish the same goal.

John / Billybob