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State Dept. Worker Found Dead Outside Agency
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| 11/08/03
Posted on 11/08/2003 10:10:40 AM PST by witnesstothefall
Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:45 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: diplomatkillingspree; dos; foggybottom; homicide; johnkokal; kokal; pamelakokal; pamkokal; shoes; state; statedepartment; statedept; suicide; waynemadsen
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To: MindBender26
I have no clue, but these "Vince Foster suicide" threads are a hoot.
121
posted on
11/08/2003 3:11:22 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Free Vulcan
Hubba Hubba Helgenburger!
122
posted on
11/08/2003 3:12:08 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: ridesthemiles
I agree totally, and I only wish the DC investigators had the integrity of the fictional CSI's Grissom.
In fact, that crew could have job security for life in DC, cleaning up old intentionallay unsolved cases.
123
posted on
11/08/2003 3:15:17 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee; Squantos
I hereby volunteer to travel to Foggy Bottom on window-opening detail.
Think they'd get the hint? ;-)
To: ladyjane; seamole; archy
A few years ago there was an Italian banker who apparently hung himself under a bridge near Rome. When found he had no shoes and had pebbles in his pocket. At the time it was said that these were signs of a hit.
'God's banker' death case reopened
ROME, Italy --The Italian banker found hanging from Blackfriars Bridge in London 20 years ago was murdered, a new inquiry has concluded.
It was long thought that Roberto Calvi -- dubbed "God's banker" -- had committed suicide.
But a new autopsy concluded that Calvi was strangled near the bridge and then hung from it, sources said.
Judiciary sources in Rome told Reuters on Friday that the results of the autopsy will now be reviewed by two judges who will decide whether to order a murder trial .
Calvi, whose body was found on June 18, 1982, had been chairman of Banco Ambrosiano, which collapsed in 1982.
He was renowned for his close ties to top-ranking Vatican officials and was suspected of having links to the Mafia.
Bricks had been placed in his pockets to weigh him down.
The fresh report is said to conclude that Calvi's neck bones did not show the kind of damage that would have been caused if he had hanged himself from a rope.
It also found that his hands and fingernails were clean.
If he had stuffed bits of brick in his own pockets and climbed a rusty scaffolding to hang himself, there would have been traces, the report said.
During the original investigation into the death, a coroner in London ruled that it was a suicide case, although a second coroner recorded an open verdict.
An initial investigation in Milan also concluded Calvi had committed suicide, but the case was later reopened in Rome.
The new post-mortem was ordered in 1998.
Calvi's body was exhumed and examined by an international group of forensic specialists using modern technology, the judicial sources said.
Earlier this month, Italian newspapers reported police had found a safety-deposit materials belonging to the banker that could provide more clues about his death.
Investigators suspect Calvi was killed by the Mafia for failing to repay their "deposits" on demand.
Roberto Calvi
Source
125
posted on
11/08/2003 3:48:13 PM PST
by
csvset
To: Squantos
Just as they do with their suit jackets, some folks also remove their shoes for comfort.
To: Donna Lee Nardo
My Dad is a retired NJ Police officer. He once told me that every highway crash fatality he had to investigate, the victim was with out shoes. EVERY ONE! The DMV did a study and proved it was a reflex relaxation truma. You are literally knocked out of your shoes. Go figure!
127
posted on
11/08/2003 4:09:15 PM PST
by
JOE6PAK
("Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils."-Hector Berlioz)
To: JOE6PAK
Oh, you are totally right. I wasn't even thinking about that. He suffered a fall. *slapping my head now*
To: csvset; boris
Shoes/etc.
Must have something to do with their 'toothbrush'?
Naw
129
posted on
11/08/2003 4:22:45 PM PST
by
maestro
To: Lijahsbubbe
His shoes were killing him???
130
posted on
11/08/2003 4:23:00 PM PST
by
billhilly
(If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
To: Lijahsbubbe
" It turned out to be the gate to MacDill Air Force Base.
In seconds, they were swarmed by uniformed guards, military vehicles and machine guns.
"They had guards all over it. Machine guns in the windows," said Tampa police Capt. Bob Guidara. "They were surrounded."
It is obvious that the writer of this fiction confused the Air Force with the Marine Corp. The Air Force does not use loaded guns.
131
posted on
11/08/2003 4:28:24 PM PST
by
billhilly
(If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
To: EGPWS
"Perhaps the "alleged evil doer" was female?"
Good guess. His wife also worked at the State Department.
132
posted on
11/08/2003 4:35:51 PM PST
by
billhilly
(If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
To: witnesstothefall
I have a hunch we might be needing this.
.
133
posted on
11/08/2003 4:43:07 PM PST
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: Lijahsbubbe
"But would murderers take them off of him first before pushing him?" Perhaps not, but if he were alone in his office (or thought he was), he might have had them off anyway. I know I would.
134
posted on
11/08/2003 4:47:29 PM PST
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: Ben Hecks
"It's probably just a coincidence that former employees of this organization included Greg Theilmann and Mrs. Walter Pincus" Did they stage commit suicide too?
135
posted on
11/08/2003 4:59:10 PM PST
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: Eroteme
"Ruled death by natural causes, but there are many troubling aspects about the case." Seems there were a couple of deaths on the Clinton body count list that were ruled to be by natural causes, bulletholes in the back of the head notwithstanding. What natural cause, lead poisoning?
136
posted on
11/08/2003 5:02:30 PM PST
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: Cicero
John D. Rockefeller died of a heart attack in his office after some extra curricular acitivities with his secretary. He had neither shoes or pants on.....but the pants were put back on by the secretary before calling for medical help. I don't believe she bothered with the shoes...
137
posted on
11/08/2003 5:08:33 PM PST
by
OldFriend
(DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
To: Travis McGee
They never did say why Barbara Wise died in the Commerce Department over Thanksgiving holiday after her boss Ron Browns accident. The circumstances were very strange to say the least.
To: OldFriend
"John D. Rockefeller died of a heart attack in his office after some extra curricular
acitivities with his secretary." That was Nelson Rockefeller; former Gov. of NY and
former Vice President under Nixon after Spiro Agnew resigned from that office.
To: StormEye
OOOOOOOPPPPPPSSSSSSSS......thanx for the correction!
140
posted on
11/08/2003 5:27:47 PM PST
by
OldFriend
(DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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