To: RobbyS
Your reading of Paul's comments on celibacy et al, depends on your agreement with Luther on this matter. I'm sorry but I've completely lost you on this one. It has nothing to do with "my reading" of Paul or Luther's reading of Paul. The words of Paul could not be any plainer -- clergy are allowed to marry if they wish and forbidding people to marry is the teaching of demons and deceiving spirits. It's clear also that Peter and a number of other apostles were married and that they brought their wives with them on their mission journeys. When I'm driving along and see a stop sign, I don't ask others in the car what their "reading" of it is or research what Henry Ford thought on the subject. The meaning of the stop sign is plain on its face so I stop the car. Similarly, Paul's teachings, which were given by God, are clear and don't depend upon anyone's interpretation whether they be Catholic, Baptist, or Lutheran.
To: DallasMike
Are you so sure that you really know what Paul was talking about, I mean what he had in mind as he wrote? Titus, for instance refers to a concrete situation and particular persons about whom WE know next to nothing. If we were suddenly transported back to Philadelphia in 1776 and were suddely introduced to men whose names are famous, we would find that our "knowledge" of them was very wrong. To be suddenly in the company of Cretans of the 1st Century would absolutely blow our minds, as we would be aliens on a different planet. Even if we knew their language and could explain that we were also Christians, we would hardly know what to make of one another.
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11/08/2003 9:48:11 PM PST by
RobbyS
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