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As a terminal cancer patient dealing with "Advance Directives" and how to arm my adult children against the pressure of the Culture of Death, I just came across something online that is perfect for them to remember. After all, the COD *claims* that it is entirely my choices that matter (which we know isn't really true, but oh well). That is: It is my choice to die of my cancer and that alone. Not dehydration or starvation or just enough extra morphine to get it over with. I'm not interested in "dying with dignity" as the COD puts it, which is such a crock. What they mean by "dying with dignity" is that other people involved will feel the minimum impact, will feel the least uncomfortable with the death. And that isn't "natural," that is unnatural. We're not meant to feel the least hurt from the death of loved ones, and it's a sick and sinful society that tries to minimize death by minimizing its emotional and spiritual impact by "dignifying" and "hurrying" it.

Terri is not naturally dying at all! And that's what's so very sick and evil about this whole situation. Nothing Shiavo or Felos or Greer has done lends to one iota of "death with dignity." Terri can't scream in protest; she'll die quietly if they kill her, and that's "dignified" enough for them. Going quietly and without discomfort to others is what is meant by "dignified." But we're also discussing the entire COD (Culture of Death), so I'll go on.

I've kind of flummoxed the doctors because they have to admit they won't know when it will be - tomorrow, or a year from now, suddenly, or gradually. I have small cell lung cancer that has ceased responding to chemotherapy, and is growing. I'm currently going through second-line chemo to see if they can give me some extra time, and I'm in palliative care. But I'm considered "terminal."

As such, I think I'm qualified to state unequivably that the COD's definition of "dealth with dignity" is spurious and evil. My "death with dignity" will be that I will die naturally, of cancer that can't be cured, with people who love me saying goodbye to me emotionally, painfully, and faithfully, knowing we'll be together again soon. My "dignity" will be their love and their grief, and their memories of me throughout their lives, not my going "quietly" without pain or discomfort to them.

Quietly

890 posted on 11/09/2003 5:26:53 PM PST by Quietly ("Not as those without Hope")
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To: Quietly
Thank you for this insight. Prayers that your cancer will go into remission or be cured anyhow.
897 posted on 11/09/2003 5:38:49 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Quietly
You wrote- As a terminal cancer patient dealing with "Advance Directives" and how to arm my adult children against the pressure of the Culture of Death, I just came across something online that is perfect for them to remember.

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Wow! What a post, and we can easily tell that it is from your heart. I am speachless and can only say that your post will be read by many people who respect you and your decisions. Even during this trying time you are thinking of others, Terri, that says so much about you.

My sincere hopes and prayers are sent to you, Gadd Bless yu and your family.

899 posted on 11/09/2003 5:42:07 PM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: Quietly
Praise be to God for you and your so beautifully written statement about "death with dignity".

As a daughter who was beside her mom through the end of her days living with terminal cancer your words were a breath of fresh air. I see my Mom's desires expressed by you.

May our Lord Jesus strengthen you and may His peace that passes all understanding be upon you and your loved ones all your days.
907 posted on 11/09/2003 5:50:38 PM PST by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:)
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To: Quietly
God bless you and keep you,Quietly.
936 posted on 11/09/2003 6:56:35 PM PST by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Quietly
My "death with dignity" will be that I will die naturally, of cancer that can't be cured, with people who love me saying goodbye to me emotionally, painfully, and faithfully, knowing we'll be together again soon. My "dignity" will be their love and their grief, and their memories of me throughout their lives, not my going "quietly" without pain or discomfort to them.

Thank you for your story and sharing your thoughts.

939 posted on 11/09/2003 7:04:20 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: Quietly

Have you gotten a second doctor's opinion?
A close friend of mine was told this very thing and he was told it was inoperable by one doctor.
He then went to a clinic that specializes in cancer, he was operated on. That was 2 years ago and cancer free now.
944 posted on 11/09/2003 7:16:16 PM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: Quietly
I agree with you, Quietly. The 'dignity' part is a load of crap, only to make the living feel better. The ones that have no spines, anyway.
I remember you from a couple of months back. I hope you are doing as well as can be. I will remember you in my prayers.
1,005 posted on 11/09/2003 9:22:10 PM PST by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Quietly
Dear George ("I Am All") Felos:

Dear Michael Schiavo (Slave to Self):

Dear Advocates of Euthanasia:

Dear Residents of the Netherlands, where "hastened death" is legal:

Dear Hemlock Society (or whatever your current sanitized name is - "Choices in Dying", I think):

Please Read Post #890.

Dear God: Please help us. And please shower Quietly with Your graces and blessings. Hold Quietly close to Your heart. Amen.

1,014 posted on 11/09/2003 9:29:14 PM PST by firerosemom
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To: Quietly
You have my vote for post of the day, and my prayers even more so. Thank you for your wisdom-filled insights on the charade of "death with dignity".
1,023 posted on 11/09/2003 9:38:12 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida
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To: Quietly
Thank you for writing so beautifully about coping with your illness. Your wisdom and spirituality shine through the sadness of acceptance. I will pray for a miracle that you will be healed.
1,069 posted on 11/10/2003 3:32:07 AM PST by msmagoo
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To: Quietly
I feel, Quietly, that you are closer to God's wisdom than I am, so I post this because you have shown us our need:

He Maketh No Mistake ~ He leadeth me ... Psalm 23:2

My Father's way may twist and turn, My heart may throb and ache; But in my soul I'm glad to know He maketh no mistake.

My cherished plans may go astray, My hopes may fade away; But still I'll trust my Lord to lead, For He doth know the way.

Though night be dark and it may seem That day will never break, I'll pin my faith, my all, on Him; He maketh no mistake.

There's so much now I cannot see, My eyesight's far too dim; But come what may, I'll simply trust And leave it all to Him.

For by-and-by the mist will lift, And plain it all He'll make; Through all the way, though dark to me, He made not one mistake.

~ A. M. Overton

"In His hand is the life of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind" Job 12:10

You honor your God and your family and your extended family here, Quietly, with the beauty of your presence. May the Lord grant you the desires of your heart, in His blessed name I pray, Amen ...

1,094 posted on 11/10/2003 6:45:35 AM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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