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To: alpowolf; Poohbah; Polybius; r9etb
You are hereby invited and encouraged to start a thread to debate Lt. Col. West. I posted this thread under activism; not general discussion. Worse yet, I enouraged Lt. Col Allen, Angela AND his lawyer to sign on here. I am disgusted with you all. You think Angela needs to be confronted with this when I promised help? They are getting enough back stabbing. Is this the respect you show to a Lt. Col who put his life on the line to defend OUR country?

I was going to continue to post progress, information and updates here; but I'm sickened by how this turned out. I am more than likely going to just continue this movement with the Vets, Trench Rats and Legion. The National reach with them is just fine. The contacts go up to the White House. The activism will continue. Just without your inclusion. I don't need this behavior. The West Family don't need this behavior. None of our military do.
190 posted on 11/07/2003 5:48:39 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia; alpowolf
You are hereby invited and encouraged to start a thread to debate Lt. Col. West. I posted this thread under activism; not general discussion.

OK. Are you JimRob? Do you have the authority to mandate what we can and cannot say on this topic?

Worse yet, I enouraged Lt. Col Allen, Angela AND his lawyer to sign on here.

LTC West and his attorney need to focus on the real audience--the officers hearing his case. I do know for a fact that the Staff Judge Advocate and commanding officers do NOT appreciate anyone attempting to conduct a trial in the media--whether it be prosecutor or defendant--prior to an Article 32 hearing.

I am disgusted with you all. You think Angela needs to be confronted with this when I promised help?

You do NOT have the authority to commit me or anyone else other than yourself to a particular position on any topic. You show up spouting nonsense, I'll call you on it.

They are getting enough back stabbing.

Oh, boo-hoo, the guy is getting an Article 32 hearing. In other words, they're going to try and figure out whether this guy should be bound over for trial.

Is this the respect you show to a Lt. Col who put his life on the line to defend OUR country?

Does America have reason to expect that LTC West would obey lawful orders from his superiors?

192 posted on 11/07/2003 5:57:04 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Calpernia; alpowolf; Poohbah; r9etb
You are hereby invited and encouraged to start a thread to debate Lt. Col. West. I posted this thread under activism; not general discussion. Worse yet, I enouraged Lt. Col Allen, Angela AND his lawyer to sign on here. I am disgusted with you all.

With all due respect, Calpernia, you posted an opinion Letter to the Editor published by the Washington Post.

How was anybody else on this thread supposed to know that no other opinions were welcome or that you had invited the West family and their attorney to follow the thread?

I am sorry if my attempts to argue the law in favor of Lt. Col. West "disgusted" you.

197 posted on 11/07/2003 6:07:36 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Calpernia
Many here have made disgusting comments. Just want you to know that you are not alone. I signed the petition and did some emailing..also emailed my support for Lt. Col. West. Keep fighting the good fight. Sometimes FR can be a real disappointment, I know.
208 posted on 11/07/2003 6:43:57 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: Calpernia; Poohbah; Polybius; r9etb
It seems to me that you have a rather funny idea about what a "forum" is. A forum is not an amen corner.

This may come as a great big surprise to some people, but when someone puts on the uniform of this country, they and their actions reflect on the country and its people. So it is entirely appropriate that citizens such as ourselves address ourselves to issues such as these. This is not "back stabbing"; it is carrying out our duty as citizens.

Oh, BTW I am a veteran myself so I'm afraid any "you liberal military-hater" arguments anybody has lined up will be wasted on me. Sorry 'bout that.
225 posted on 11/08/2003 4:45:53 AM PST by alpowolf
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To: Calpernia
I'm glad you show passionate support for our troops.

LTC West, I'm sure, is a fine american soldier who deserves friends like you.

LTC West and his family are getting no back stabbing from this group. Of the people here who dissent with the LTCs actions, I have seen none that want him to spend time in jail, or lose his retirement.

That said, in this forum anything you post will be met with some dissent. Did you ever consider that all the information you are disseminating comes from the defense's side only? That is because, thankfully, that the military justice system doesn't allow the accusers/prosecution to comment or persuade people outside of judicial proceedings. LTC West has a right for his side of the story to be told to anyone willing to listen, and his obviously good defense lawyer is doing a fine job of that. But to condemn those of us who want to educate people on this forum in matters of military justice and standards of conduct as backstabbers is way over the top. I havn't seen a single post encouraging anyone not to sign the petition or donate money. You have shown yourself to be narrow minded and petty with the post I'm replying to. I'd rather not be included than to blindly follow.

Good bye!
231 posted on 11/08/2003 8:14:45 AM PST by Ispy4u
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