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The NRA stands fast against lies
The News Journal ^ | Nov 4, 2003 | John Sigler

Posted on 11/06/2003 8:46:00 AM PST by neverdem

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:01:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

As a retired Delaware police captain and 2nd vice president of the National Rifle Association, I am always disheartened when I see lies printed about NRA's concern for the safety of America's police officers.

The NRA will never support anything that endangers the lives of America's law enforcement personnel. No organization supports law enforcement like the NRA.


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KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guncontrol; nra
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To: Joe Brower; *bang_list; AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; Shooter 2.5; ...
From my e-mail:

"Fifty Caliber Institute Update – Gun Grabbers on the Attack

In this update:

1. VPC uses liberal media allies for new attack on the 50

2. City of Long Beach, CA passes ban on 50 sales

3. Election 2003 – What are the results for the 50?

1. VPC uses liberal allies for new attack on the 50

If you want to scout out any potential enemy activity by the VPC, all you have to do is scan the New York Times. Preceding nearly every anti-gun effort launched by the VPC is a ‘timely’ article in the New York Times about the subject.
This practice held true over the weekend, when the Times ran an anti-50 piece, digging up the same old recycled and tired VPC arguments about the 50.
There is now new event to trigger this reporting, no new incident with a 50, it’s simply the result of a cozy relationship between a couple of America’s most extremist anti-gun groups, the Violence Policy Center and the New York Times.

But VPC didn’t stop with their gun banning pals in New York, the also farmed out a bogus article through a subscription publication that purports to provide news about aviation safety.
This so-called aviation safety article read like a bad screenplay, as it described the dangers of 50 caliber rifles being wielded by terrorist sniper teams who target jetliners parked on the runway, igniting fuel tanks with fireball inducing explosions.
Despite the best efforts of VPC and their allies in the press to produce a terrorist ‘how to’ manual, the only danger in the scenarios put forth is that they have all the makings of a really bad action movie.

The reality is that there never has been a documented attack on US jetliners or military aircraft anywhere in the world with a 50 caliber target rifle.
Terrorists seem to prefer the SA-7 heat seeking shoulder fired surface to air missile, which happens to be available on the black market for less than many 50 caliber target rifles, has ten times the range and is far easier to use.

But reality, facts, logic and sound judgment are no barrier to those seeking to grab headlines by grabbing your guns.
That’s why liberal Democratic Senators pushed through legislation extending a ten year ban on “x-ray invisible” plastic guns that can evade airport metal detectors and x-ray machines.
With these devices existing only in the imagination of anti-gun extremists like Ted Kennedy and Chuck Schumer, it’s no wonder that the threat they pose is beyond imagination.

The Fifty Caliber Institute has been hard at work preparing a thorough debunking of the ridiculous claims made by VPC.
We’ve been working with experts in aviation, the oil and chemical storage industry, experts in ballistic armor, as well as current and former members of America’s special operations community to compile the most authoritative data on the subject.
These unimpeachable sources have provided us with clear and convincing evidence to refute the lies put forth by those seeking to ban these rifles.
We’re in the process of preparing this report for publication, in cooperation with other noted experts from the gun rights community and will share it with you as soon as possible.

2. City of Long Beach Passes 50 Caliber Ordinance

Long Beach, CA recently passed an ordinance that bans the sale or transfer of 50 caliber rifles within city limits, as well as a resolution supporting the efforts for a statewide ban.
The Fifty Caliber Institute had worked diligently to fight the Long Beach proposal, and we lost in a narrow one vote margin. Since blocking the statewide ban this summer, the Fifty Caliber Institute has been busy with a number of local efforts to ban or restrict the 50 caliber target rifle.

3. Election 2003 – How the results affect you and your guns

A number of states held off year elections this November which will impact the debate over 50 caliber target rifles. California replaced a Democrat supporter of gun control with a Republican supporter of gun control.
On its face, this offers no change to the status quo of gun rights, however the extremely partisan nature of this fight in CA might allow for slight improvement.
Governor Arnold has a lot of learning to do when it comes to California public policy issues, and firearms rights are included. While the Governor has indicated a willingness to support a 50 ban, his office may be more receptive to reasoned discussion than that of Governor Davis.
We’ll be fighting hard, but not holding our breath.

Republican victories in Mississippi and Kentucky will offer gains for gun owners. Both Republican candidates held stronger pro-gun views than their Democratic opponents.
More important than the impact on gun rights in just those two states is the impact of these gains on the national Democratic Party. Lately it has been the talk of Capitol Hill that Democrats are learning to avoid the gun control issue like a bad case of SARS!
Perhaps some key gun victories in states that used to be governed by Democrats will reinforce that view.

On the down side, anti-gun Democrats won control of the New Jersey Senate. This chamber had been split 50-50 on party lines and now is in complete Democrat control. New Jersey has seen attempts to ban 50’s and will likely be a target for gun grabbing in the near future.

Stay tuned for more information that affects your 50’s and your rights!

Sincerely

John Burtt
Chairman

Michael Marks
Executive Director" Fifty Caliber Institute

61 posted on 11/06/2003 6:26:58 PM PST by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: going hot
I see you're from CA.

The esteemed solons of that state have unwittingly validated virtually all my firearms purchasing decisions by passing idiotic laws outlawing said firearms.

The Serbu BFG-50 was the one they validated this year.

How is Jim March doing in his CCW battle? I haven't heard anything lately.
62 posted on 11/06/2003 6:48:27 PM PST by George Smiley (Is the RKBA still a right if you have to get the government's permission before you can exercise it?)
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To: Noumenon
Well, you've not been posting any of Hayek's work of late. Although I've been very busy past few month's so may have missed it.
63 posted on 11/06/2003 7:15:36 PM PST by donozark
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To: donozark
I've been pretty busy of late myself. But I've got a blockbuster chapter from VDH's Mexifornia almost ready for a posting. Very timely, that.
64 posted on 11/06/2003 7:57:16 PM PST by Noumenon (I don't have enough guns and ammo to start a war - but I do have enough to finish one.)
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To: George Smiley
Thier laws sure helped millions of fence sitters to get down to the store and buy up stuff.

I dare say, the '89 AWB in CA was more resposible than any other one thing to pass literally millions more of semi auto rifles into the hands of private citizenry.

Last count had the subsequent rate of registration of "outlawed" guns in the low teen thou's, something they are not too keen on stating out loud, or in any major media outlet.

Since then, every time another (illegal) law passes, from the time it passes until it becomes law, the firearms that the particular law effects are snapped up faster than corn by a hungry flock of chickens. The passed laws have done more to arm the citizenry than if laws were actually passed to make it mandatory to posess a firearm or face jail time. Talk about unintended consequences.:-)

Reversing the trend of these legislative acts of treason and then erasing them off the books must be preceeded by first slowing them down. To do so requires (unfortunately)the cooperation of a majority of voters, who must first be convinced that firearms are tools, nothing more, and in fact can and are used far more for good than bad.

Regards your 50, I am definately envious.

65 posted on 11/06/2003 8:25:03 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: CDHart
http://members.tripod.com/Johns_Views/gun17.htm


MOLON LABE


(mo-lone lah-veh)
In 480 BC, Xerxes King of Persia (son of Darius who was defeated in a prior attempt to take Greece) had landed in Greece and was in full preparation to invade Athens, the leader of the independent Greek city-states as part of his strategic plan to conquer all of Greece.

King Leonidas of Sparta (left) and another Greek city-state agreed to help stop the invading Persians, and marched with 300 hand-picked troops to Thermopylae on the north coast of Greece. Thermopylae was the best of three possible defensive areas in which Xerxes' invading army had to advance. This mountain gap along the coast was about 60 feet wide, and was the best location for a blocking action. Since the 300 knew they were going to die fighting against overwhelming force the first requirement was that each man had to have a son left behind.

When Leonidas was preparing to make his stand, a Persian envoy arrived. The envoy explained to Leonidas the futility of trying to resist the advance of the huge Persian army and demanded that the Spartans lay down their arms. Leonidas told Xerxes "MOLON LABE", or "Come And Get Them."


"Our archers are so numerous," said the envoy, "that the flight of their arrows darkens the sun."
"So much the better," replied Dienekes, a Spartan warrior, "for we shall fight them in the shade."


After three days of fighting and having killed countless numbers of Xerxes' elite troops, they were finally overrun after being betrayed by a traitor who showed the enemy another pass behind the defenders. King Leonidas and his Spartans were then killed to the last man in a final battle. Xerxes marched on and destroyed Athens.
However, the Spartans gallant defense gave the rest of Greece more time to mobilize and increased their morale and willingness to fight. The Persians now faced an united Greek army and navy, lead by Spartans, that destroyed his fleet at the Straits of Salamis and defeated his army at Plataea. Xerxes eventually withdrew back to Persia.

Today there is a plaque dedicated to those heroes at the site. It reads: "Go tell the Spartans, travelers passing by, that here, obedient to their laws we lie." The point of this true story is when anybody demands you to give up your guns, tell them "MOLON LABE". You may fall in the first fight, but many more will step into your place and a determined and organized people can do anything.
66 posted on 11/07/2003 4:23:11 AM PST by El Laton Caliente
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To: Donaeus
"Please add me to your RKBA Bang list"

Done!

67 posted on 11/07/2003 5:39:47 AM PST by Joe Brower ("The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws." - Tacitus)
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To: Joe Brower
BUMP


68 posted on 11/07/2003 2:29:20 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Just like lame employees complaining that the boss doesn't know what he's doing, it's easy to criticize the mistakes of the people who make them while doing nothing, which produces no mistakes.

Some people might do well to use the hands they're sitting on to pull their heads out of their anal orifices.
69 posted on 11/09/2003 7:10:48 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (You're saying our founding fathers wrote the 2nd Amendment for sporting purposes?><BCC>)
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To: TERMINATTOR
What have YOU done to repeal an illegal gun law?
70 posted on 11/09/2003 7:17:04 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (You're saying our founding fathers wrote the 2nd Amendment for sporting purposes?><BCC>)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
Yes, and unfortunately they don't realize we are starting to make progress. The scary part is little kids in the back yelling, are we there yet?

With the help of the internet, we're making inroads in the PR war. With that, we can start getting our A rated candidates in so we have the votes. The fight for the Assault Weapons Bill started before the last election. The NRA reminded us that the ones who were elected a year ago were the ones who would vote on it. It would have been senseless to wake up today and worry about it if we didn't have the votes already.

We have made progress in the states thanks to the CCW laws. Those laws worked both ways. They gave a political platform for freedom lovers and a little revenge to get rid of the opposers.

We still lacking in the Senate. Although the Republicans have the majority, the Second Amendment supporters aren't there.

We still have to work on getting conservatives in the courts. That's evident in the Missouri loss.

It's a difficult fight. Someone should remind some people that the NRA only represents 5% of the gunowners. I believe anti-gun AARP has ten million members. Even so, the NRA does a good job.
71 posted on 11/09/2003 7:32:31 AM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: George Smiley; going hot
My **FAVORITE** .50 picture:


Molon Labe!

Hat-Trick

72 posted on 11/09/2003 7:39:21 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that does not trust you with guns?)
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To: Hat-Trick
your pic does not come up. One more try, pretty please??
73 posted on 11/09/2003 10:48:13 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot
Not sure why it didn't work. Here goes again:


74 posted on 11/09/2003 8:23:41 PM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that does not trust you with guns?)
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