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Advocates Want Other Cities to Follow San Francisco and Raise Minimum Wage
TBO ^ | 11/5/03 | Lisa Leff

Posted on 11/05/2003 4:56:08 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Advocates for the poor hope city voters' approval of a minimum wage well above the federal minimum marks a precedent that spreads beyond this liberal bastion. Sixty percent of San Francisco voters Tuesday endorsed a citywide $8.50-an-hour minimum wage affecting virtually all employers, not just those receiving municipal contracts. The passage of Proposition L makes San Francisco the nation's third city with its own wage threshold.

"Starting with some of the progressive cities, I expect this movement to move to a wide range of communities across the country," said Paul Sonn, a lawyer with the Brennan School for Justice at New York University who helped draft the San Francisco initiative.

The Santa Fe, N.M., city council this year set a local minimum wage of $8.50 for all businesses with at least 25 employees, although it is being challenged in court. Washington, D.C. guarantees its workers $1 an hour more than the federal minimum of $5.15.

California, with an hourly minimum wage of $6.75, is one of a dozen states that exceed the federal minimum, which Congress last raised in 1997.

Some cities can't follow San Francisco's lead because some states prohibit them from setting their own minimum wages. Louisiana's legislature passed such a law last year after voters in New Orleans approved a local wage minimum.

San Francisco's new minimum wage takes effect in 90 days for large businesses, and will be phased in over two years for nonprofit organizations and firms with fewer than 10 employees.

Supporters estimate that 22,000 San Francisco workers who currently earn below $8.50-an-hour will directly benefit, and that another 32,000 people who already get paid the new minimum also will see their wages increase as a result. The measure was opposed by the restaurant industry, which said it amounts to a job-killing raise for waiters who already earn tips.

San Francisco voters also banned "aggressive solicitation" by panhandlers and approved a measure to increase oversight of the police department.

In other ballot issues around the country Tuesday:

- Maine rejected a $650 million gambling resort that opponents said would have damaged the state's outdoorsy image. Slot machines at racetracks were rejected in Colorado, while Indiana voters approved a riverboat casino in French Lick.

- New York City voters overwhelmingly rejected a measure to abolish primaries and have nonpartisan elections for mayor and certain other city posts. Billionaire Mayor Michael Bloomberg had bankrolled the campaign in support of the measure with at least $2 million of his own money.

- Houston voters narrowly approved an expansion of its light rail system, but those in Tucson, Ariz., and Kansas City, Mo., rejected light-rail proposals.

- Denver voters soundly rejected a measure requiring the city to implement stress-reduction measures, a proposal championed by a former Transcendental Meditation teacher but scoffed at by several council members.



TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: minwage; sanfrancisco

1 posted on 11/05/2003 4:56:12 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Great idea. Increase unemployment. Increase prices. Wreck economy. Blame President Bush.
2 posted on 11/05/2003 5:00:53 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Using Occam's Razor to shave the hairy beast of liberalism...)
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To: will1776
"Great idea. Increase unemployment. Increase prices. Wreck economy. Blame President Bush."

You got it.

This would kick a lot of kids out of what work they have.

'Course, since when has that ever bothered the subversive socialists?

3 posted on 11/05/2003 5:10:01 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Why not make it $15 and raise it to $20/hour next year.
4 posted on 11/05/2003 5:14:58 PM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
$8.50 is ridiculous. It may be time for a small increase in the minimum wage (to like $5.50 an hour) only to stop the Democrats from hiking up business costs very suddenly.
5 posted on 11/05/2003 5:17:31 PM PST by Keyes2000mt (Pray for Rush)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
What was that giant sucking sound, asked the city council.
6 posted on 11/05/2003 5:29:39 PM PST by Prof Engineer (This is NOT the government the Founders intended.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Betcha NOT ONE of these 'advocates for the poor' own a business or has employees. Betcha they're all trough-feeders to some degree.....
7 posted on 11/05/2003 5:34:04 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I've always wondered why it's better to have no employment at $8.50 than employment at $6.50. Are the benefits better, perhaps?

8 posted on 11/05/2003 5:44:56 PM PST by Agnes Heep
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Supporters estimate that 22,000 San Francisco workers who currently earn below $8.50-an-hour will directly benefit, and that another 32,000 people who already get paid the new minimum also will see their wages increase as a result

Sure, but how many of those workers will soon be out of work as a result of this latest assault on sanity? San Francisco is one of the few cities in California that is actually experiencing a net loss of population. Those with half a brain are leaving for places with a better sense of why its good to be "nice" to business.

9 posted on 11/05/2003 5:49:18 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Suppose someone were to propose a bill to make the minimum wage $50/hour for citizens and $1/hour for non-citizens. I'm sure liberals would insist it was discriminatory, but would they recognize against whom?
10 posted on 11/05/2003 6:07:10 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Starting with some of the progressive cities, I expect this movement to move to a wide range of communities across the country," said Paul Sonn, a lawyer with the Brennan School for Justice at New York University who helped draft the San Francisco initiative. The Santa Fe, N.M., city council this year set a local minimum wage of $8.50 for all businesses with at least 25 employees, although it is being challenged in court. Washington, D.C. guarantees its workers $1 an hour more than the federal minimum of $5.15. California, with an hourly minimum wage of $6.75, is one of a dozen states that exceed the federal minimum, which Congress last raised in 1997.

Hmm... sounds like San Francisco is gonna have jobs start leaving because of this. I wonder what Santa Fe's job market will look like if the lawsuit fails and the wage increase happens.

11 posted on 11/05/2003 6:33:50 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Most of the downtown retail outlets here like Noah's Bagels and Starbucks already pay their employees $9.50 or $10.00 an hour to start, so I don't think this law will have too much practical effect on existing businesses or larger chains. What it will do is ensure that a lot of new small businesses never get started - they'll just set up shop elsewhere. The whole city will end up looking like the Financial District: Starbucks, Noah's, Subway, vacant retail space, another Starbucks, Walgreen's, another vacant retail space, etc.

But hey, the progressives struck a blow at global capitalism! WalMart will never come here now...LOL!

12 posted on 11/05/2003 6:40:05 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I am a small business owner. If AZ ever had a law that made me pay my employees a certain wage, I would downsize and my husband and I would do all the work. We pay our employees what we (and they) think is fair. They are paid according to experience and how well they perform their job.

So much for the liberal way of creating new jobs.
13 posted on 11/05/2003 6:41:46 PM PST by GWfan
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