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To: JasonC
We will win only when Muslim holy men - not politicians merely posing as such holy men, as are the terror master themselves - declare terrorist murderers to be apostates and damnable before God.

For what it's worth.
Islamic Fiqh Council, Saudi Arabia. Source: Muslim World League Journal, Jumad al-Ula 1423/July 2002 CE

During its sixteenth session, which was held between 21-27 Shawwal 1422 H (5-10 January 2002), the Islamic Fiqh Council laid emphasis on the fact that extremism, violence, and terrorism have no connection whatsoever with Islam. In fact, they are manifestations of perilous acts with dangerous consequences, and an aggression and iniquity against the individual.

Whosoever carefully studies the two sources of the Shari'ah (Islamic
law), namely the Book of Allah [the Qur'an] and the Sunnah (Traditions) of Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him), would discoverthat they are devoid of any import of extremism, acts of violence or terrorism, which imply carrying out aggression against others without a just cause.

Therefore, in order to draw an Islamic definition of terrorism that unites the vision and attitudes of all Muslims; and in order to clearly state this fact and highlight the danger of associating Islam with extremism and terrorism, the Islamic Fiqh Council presents the following definition of terrorism and Islam's attitude toward it both to the Muslims and the world at large.
http://thetruereligion.org/terrorviewpoint.htm

"When there arises a Muslim holy man who is deeply wounded by the injustices committed in the name of Islam, who regards them as a stain for which rigorous atonement is required, who is on a mission to save the souls of erring brethren, then you can start to talk of victory."

They are out there, granted, you have to do a little looking and (at least in the middle east) they tend to keep a low profile but they are there. You might want to take a look at the Sufi's as a place to start.

16 posted on 11/06/2003 6:06:35 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Valin
"according to the Islamic Fiqh Council, there are various forms of terrorism, which include state terrorism, the most conspicuous illustration and the most heinous of which is practiced in Palestine today by the Israelis, and by the Serbs in Bosnia- Herzegovina and Kosovo.

"According to the Islamic Fiqh Council, state terrorism is the most menacing to security and peace in the world, and, therefore, standing up against it is tantamount to self defense and striving in the cause of Allah."

No I am sorry, that just does not qualify. It is deconstructionist spin and not righteousness. Party hacks wrote this, not men concerned with their own souls and those of their fellows. We are not remotely there yet.

17 posted on 11/06/2003 11:02:36 AM PST by JasonC
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