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To: quidnunc
Jack Wheeler panders too much to the emotions. There's room for sensible disagreement and rational discussion about foreign and military policy. We don't have to be dragooned by demagogues into this or that camp.

NewsMax was very critical of Clinton measures that it considered anti-liberty. Those who raise the same criticisms today may well be wrong, but NewsMax ought to at least give a fair hearing to those arguments. Circumstances may dictate a change in policy, but not the vilification of those one shares or shared principles with.

Rothbard has been a bad influence, but it's not clear that he's been that much of a factor within the Libertarian Party -- he has his own little Rockwellite clique or cult. He certainly was a utopianist, but he's not the only one to have painted himself into a corner or gone out on a limb. Some who are beating the war drums lately are quite radical and out of touch with the realm of political possibilities.

21 posted on 11/04/2003 3:53:34 PM PST by x
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Re: "Jack Wheeler panders too much to the emotions."

Good point and I looked for the Bush-is-a-war-criminal quote. Perhaps Wheeler did not mean to say Mr. Phillips actually said it but it's what he means?

First I googled, "Howard Phillips" Bush "war crimes against the people of Iraq"

No hits.

After a few tries the closest I could find was an old Freep page

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/k-savimbi/browse

where Howard and son Brad accused President Bush of being at least partly to blame for the killing of "Christian leader, Dr. Jonas Mahleiro Savimbi. Dr. Savimbi, age 67, Angolan patriot, African nationalist, Christian leader and founder and president of the National Union for the Total Independence of Angola (UNITA)." It was from an old newsmax article.

I have no knowledge of Mr. Phillips. It's just that Mr. Wheeler sounded like a high schooler appealing to fellow students to trash a rival clique. I am new to the neo v. paleo and now it looks like it's even more complicated than that. I'll be looking for proof of Mr. Wheeler's charge that the "anti-American right" has ties to radical Islam.

42 posted on 11/04/2003 7:04:37 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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