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All of these people were staunch anti-Communists during the Cold War. Somehow they have lost their interest or their courage in opposing Islamism in the War on Moslem Terrorism.

Or maybe one they're bought, they stay bought.

1 posted on 11/04/2003 3:08:18 PM PST by quidnunc
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writings and speeches now are indistinguishable from those of Howard Dean’s in their outpouring of vitriol and condemnation of President Bush, accusing him of “war crimes against the people of Iraq

Seems Mr Phillips has some students who post regularly on Conservative Forums.

2 posted on 11/04/2003 3:13:12 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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Randian libertarians are pro-defense, pro-America; Rothbardians are the opposite.

Maybe in the past. But that's not what I hear coming out of the Rand Institute these-a-days.

3 posted on 11/04/2003 3:13:22 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: quidnunc
BTTT.

4 posted on 11/04/2003 3:13:49 PM PST by veronica ("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
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To: Grampa Dave; Howlin
Hey, who shall we ping?
5 posted on 11/04/2003 3:14:09 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican (getting popcorn for this one.....)
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Interesting post. Most folk have probably never heard of Rothbard, however, including a good percentage of Libertarians.
6 posted on 11/04/2003 3:14:23 PM PST by GSWarrior
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Former Congressman Bob Barr, who led the impeachment of Bill Clinton in Congress and is also an NRA board member, has become a paid whore for the ACLU, and now makes a living bashing Bush and Ashcroft

Free Padilla!

7 posted on 11/04/2003 3:15:10 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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The single most influential conservative activist in Washington, Grover Norquist, is being investigated by the FBI for his long-standing connections to a network of financiers of Moslem terrorists.

Oh my. Will wonders never cease?       :::snicker:::

8 posted on 11/04/2003 3:15:27 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick (The LMDC can go to hell)
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the article discounts racism, and calls them mainstream....i don't buy it. there just fascist, Jew haters out of the closet.
10 posted on 11/04/2003 3:18:11 PM PST by gdc61
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I wonder just how many Anti-Americans there are out there now. How many would there have to be before we feel really isolated?
11 posted on 11/04/2003 3:18:19 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Me caigo a mis rodillas y hablo a las estrellas de plata. "¿Qué misterios usted está encubriendo?")
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The same is true for conservative economist Paul Craig Roberts, whose syndicated columns have become so rabid that they seem deranged with hate – such as the claim that the Bush administration is “organizing genocide for Arabs.”

Wonder if Paul Abdul-Craig al-Roberts has professed Shahada yet?

12 posted on 11/04/2003 3:19:29 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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Yet Howard Phillips’ writings and speeches now are indistinguishable from those of Howard Dean’s in their outpouring of vitriol and condemnation of President Bush, accusing him of “war crimes against the people of Iraq.”

Howard Phillips is pushing the Constitution Party over all else. He has no loyalty to President Bush.

13 posted on 11/04/2003 3:19:39 PM PST by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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the article discounts racism, and calls them mainstream....i don't buy it. there just fascist, Jew haters out of the closet. sometimes anti-communist does mean fascist.
14 posted on 11/04/2003 3:19:42 PM PST by gdc61
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I think the libertarians have far more "Randians" than the other types. Most libertarians I meet are extremely strong on defense and other major issues...They just happen to be a bit more radical on economic policy, demanding at least a 90% reduction in taxes AND domestic government spending.
15 posted on 11/04/2003 3:19:52 PM PST by Capitalism2003
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The source of [Grover Norquist's] pro-Moslem obsession and his passionate defense of radical Moslems linked to Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda is a mystery to many.

No mystery. Grover's either bought and paid for or he's a old-fashioned Jew-hating sonofabitch.

Most likely both.

18 posted on 11/04/2003 3:31:06 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Jack Wheeler panders too much to the emotions. There's room for sensible disagreement and rational discussion about foreign and military policy. We don't have to be dragooned by demagogues into this or that camp.

NewsMax was very critical of Clinton measures that it considered anti-liberty. Those who raise the same criticisms today may well be wrong, but NewsMax ought to at least give a fair hearing to those arguments. Circumstances may dictate a change in policy, but not the vilification of those one shares or shared principles with.

Rothbard has been a bad influence, but it's not clear that he's been that much of a factor within the Libertarian Party -- he has his own little Rockwellite clique or cult. He certainly was a utopianist, but he's not the only one to have painted himself into a corner or gone out on a limb. Some who are beating the war drums lately are quite radical and out of touch with the realm of political possibilities.

21 posted on 11/04/2003 3:53:34 PM PST by x
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More of the typical bull$hit. "You can't criticize anything America does because we're at war!" People who hold that line of thought prove how far we've fallen as a nation.

May the people who denounce Bush's right-wing critics as traitors be the first to feel the effects of a democrat using the PATRIOT Act. I for one will laugh my ass off when they get detained indefinitely.

22 posted on 11/04/2003 4:30:53 PM PST by CodeMonkey
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One of the dumbest articles pretending to be serious.

Somehow, to disagree with one policy or another is 'Anti-American' and many good and productive conservatives are tarred by this wacko's brush. A sentiment fitting for the Taliban mentality.
23 posted on 11/04/2003 5:19:06 PM PST by RJCogburn ("You have my thanks and, with certain reservations, my respect.".......Lawyer J. Noble Daggett)
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anti-Americanism is seeping into the entire conservative movement and is threatening to splinter it into pieces

Uhhhhhhh..........

Bullsh-t.

Period.
34 posted on 11/04/2003 6:36:45 PM PST by WhiteGuy (Constitutionally limited Government now!)
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bump
35 posted on 11/04/2003 6:37:29 PM PST by foreverfree
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is now in bed with the ACLU in its efforts to demonize Attorney General John Ashcroft and prevent the Patriot Act from catching Moslem terrorists.

The Patriot Act is Anti-American.

Former Congressman Bob Barr, who led the impeachment of Bill Clinton in Congress and is also an NRA board member, has become a paid whore for the ACLU, and now makes a living bashing Bush and Ashcroft.

Maybe because Ashcroft is now pushing for bills like the unPatriot Act which he fought for as a senator. He's now turned into Janet Reno without the WACO.

37 posted on 11/04/2003 6:47:11 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (Don't blame me. I voted for Rocky.)
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