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Bush declares war on immigrant cleaning ladies
The Hill ^
| October 29, 2003
| Dick Morris
Posted on 11/04/2003 9:29:11 AM PST by paulklenk
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To: paulklenk
I believe that there is a need for an honest debate about the pros and cons of massive immigration- especially this illegal immigration. But emotional rubbish like this column isn't it.
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:47:07 AM PST
by
RANGERAIRBORNE
("It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." -Sherlock Holmes)
To: y2k_free_radical
Thank you for posting one of the most stupid remarks ever to make it to an FR discussion thread.
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:48:21 AM PST
by
paulklenk
(DEPORT HILLARY!)
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To: paulklenk
Should they have the right to free medical care thereby bankrupting numerous public hospitals-i give a lot of free care to illegal and legal mexicans
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:49:49 AM PST
by
y2k_free_radical
(ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
To: paulklenk
Should they have the right to free medical care thereby bankrupting numerous public hospitals-i give a lot of free care to illegal and legal mexicans
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:49:57 AM PST
by
y2k_free_radical
(ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
To: paulklenk
>>Perhaps you don't want to understand. Perhaps there are just a lot of bigoted Freepers out there who don't WANT to make our country available to people who are different. Perhaps harping on illegal immigration is the only way they know to express their hatred of foreigners, colored people, and others who talk funny.<<
That's just rude.
Sorry sir, my daughter's best friend is Imagine, an Iraqi girl. My hubby's nephews are 1/2 Korean, his nieces are 1/2 black and my sister IS black. All of them work, and none of them blow up Americans. Perhaps one should think before calling anyone a bigot.
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:50:36 AM PST
by
netmilsmom
( We are SITCOMs-single income, two kids, oppressive mortgage.)
To: paulklenk
came here has [illegal] immigrants.
People from other nations are allowed into this country by operation of law.
When they violate law to get here and/or stay here, they are not "immigrants", they are illegal migrants and nothing more nor less than that.
http://www.archives.gov/national_archives_experience/constitution_transcript.html#1.8
Article I Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
opportunity Republicans have to recruit life-long loyal members
Immigrate to this nation according to law, there is no problem, anyone who violates that law is not and cannot be a "life-long loyal member".
You get it yet?
To: netmilsmom
There's a lot that local law enforcement could do to solve that problem.
But here's another solution: Why not set up a center for these immigrants, run by both non-Arab and Arab Christians, with the sole purpose of helping these immigrants acclamate to the American way of doing things? You might have a chance to witness to some of these people, and win their hearts by serving them.
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:50:44 AM PST
by
paulklenk
(DEPORT HILLARY!)
To: paulklenk
You have a legitimate point
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:53:42 AM PST
by
y2k_free_radical
(ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
To: ancient_geezer
I think your handle accurately describes your brain. Glad you know how to quote law and post long messages.
Let me give you an assignment: Write a NEW law that we can put on the books that will LEGALLY give temporary amnesty to current illegals, help them register and become citizens, and make it easier for more to do the same.
That way, your heart-wrenching passion for enforcing the law can be satisfied, and more people can pay taxes live here peacefully.
Oh, let me guess -- you just don't want them here in the first place, right? Legal or not.
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:54:49 AM PST
by
paulklenk
(DEPORT HILLARY!)
To: paulklenk
What tripe. No Republican is against immigration and it is entireley disingenuous for Morris to say so.
$2 billion in CA alone is spent on educating illegal immigrants.
The US is becoming known as a nation with no rule of law, exemplified so clearly in the last few years by a sex-addicted President who tried to circumvent it himself.
To: paulklenk
It's about jobe...... for grandmothers who now toil away taking care of their daughters bastards and collecting the WIC checks.
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:54:57 AM PST
by
bert
(Don't Panic!)
To: JustPiper
Over here. (And bring your ping machine...)
To: from occupied ga
why do call ga occupied ?
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:55:30 AM PST
by
y2k_free_radical
(ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
To: y2k_free_radical
The current immigration laws are a joke. Enforce them or change them. The current approach is a farce.
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:56:55 AM PST
by
Callahan
To: paulklenk
You will find a bit of double standard here at FR.
Many of the folks who are against illegal immigration are the same ones that were outraged that we sent that Cuban kid home to his father.
For what it's worth I too am against illegal immigration and am moving toward restricted legal immigration from certain "peaceful religion" regions of the world.
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:57:05 AM PST
by
Moleman
To: paulklenk
your welcome :>)
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:58:12 AM PST
by
y2k_free_radical
(ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
To: paulklenk
I want a legal, lawful, systematic way for people to get here on an expedited basis. And I do not. I'm sure your friends, or many of the illegals I've met are good folks. But I don't want to have 20 million of them here, particularly when the school system is encouraging them to retain their mexican/gautamelan identity and language, or when our court system has determined ballots have to be printed in spanish to comply with the 14th. ammendment.
"but immigration is GREAT for a country..." Tell it to the Native Americans.
To: paulklenk
Do you really think that Jihadi Muslims will listen to Christians?? Ask any Caldean Iraqi how well they were treated back home.
I think you are seeing too much good in people which is not there. The slimiest terrorist will smile in your face as he blows up that dynamite belt. You truly have to be realistic. I have less of a problem with Latinos simply coming and living on the dole than I do Arabs looking to kill my kids. However, if one gives to one group, we must give to all.
At this point, enforsing the immigration laws is a matter of security.
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:58:13 AM PST
by
netmilsmom
( We are SITCOMs-single income, two kids, oppressive mortgage.)
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