Posted on 11/04/2003 7:24:41 AM PST by quidnunc
It appears that the average Canadian has realized what most in the federal government have yet to. A poll commissioned by the Centre for Research and Information on Canada found that 44 percent of Canadians believe that Canada should have stronger ties to the United States. It's an increase of 18 percentage points since March and is at its highest point in three years.
While Canadians are clearly growing concerned about their ties to the United States, Canada's government has done little to bridge the distance. Thanks in part to undiplomatic talk before and after George W. Bush's election, the president has yet to make a visit to Canada — outside of attending two international conferences — and Prime Minister Jean Chrétien has only made one visit to the White House. To add injury to insult many prominent Canadians — including officials in the prime minister's office — seemed to take an "unholy glee" at what happened to the United States on and the days after September 11, 2001, stated historian J.L. Granatstein in a recent speech in Toronto.
"These Canadians and their friends did very serious damage to Canada's relations with the White House and the State Department," said Granatstein.
Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham best expressed the federal government's view on October 30 when he denied relations were in a "deep freeze." Said Graham, "This is a mug's game to go into that. The fact of the matter is that when we have specific problems, when we had the electricity blackout, the prime minister phoned up Mr. Bush, he took his call, we worked on it."
Despite Graham's assertion, it's safe to say that relations are at their frostiest since the days of Pierre Trudeau and Ronald Reagan and not surprisingly the problem partly stems from philosophical differences in approaches to policy. As an example, for Canadians foreign policy is about maintaining dialogue at all costs while Americans prefer a more pragmatic approach. Canada is in the business of trying to export its values while the United States is interested in protecting what it determines is in its national interest. As Granatstein pointed out in his October 21 speech, "Values or principles are for individuals, while nations have interests, above all."
Canada's "soft power" approach has been a dismal failure. The influence that Canadians believe they wield through kind words and understanding has had remarkably little effect in achieving our goals. Like Europe, Canada's influence is diminishing because cultural exchanges and foreign aid don't sway nations like Iran and other unstable rogue states — at the cost of its relationship with the United States. As much as Canadians don't like to admit it, the velvet glove occasionally must reveal the iron first. As Canada's ability to project power has diminished over the past two decades, so has its voice. Particularly with the United States.
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I think Laz was just looking for someoneone like you. Speak into the special purple microphone.
How about we just shake hands. And have Chrétien keep both hands where I can see them.
Van. Why is it Americans are so paranoid? What "shit for brains" gave you the idea we had a srew you attitude after 911.Are you aware of how many Canadians died in the twin towers.? Are you aware of the millions of $$$ that were raised across Canda to go to your first responders fund?
Did you forget already about the number of people the US wouldn't let land in thier own country.
Maybe you don't remember all of your planes that we took in and landed in Canada.
Maybe you forget the Canadian people that took the American people off the planes into their own homes, and shared with them until they could get home.
Have you forgot already the number of Canadian firefighters that were in California helping you there?
Maybe if you would look in the mirror you would understand why a lot of US people, with attitudes like yours, are disliked around the world. Have a nice day
Laz. with all due respect I think Canada has too much class for that. Regards
I agree. Canada is not our friend. Your tiny list of good deeds don't make you a friend. Are you aware that if we made a list of things that America and Americans have done for Canada and Canadians it would pages and pages long. You insult us by trying to manipulate with a few good deeds. Better to change your government and start to really, honestly appreciate your neighbor.
The way that Canada has been treating us is not acceptable. I hope that you can really hear that. It is astounding to me that so many Canadians come here, to a conservative "American" site to tell us how we should respond to your insults and lack of support. Perhaps the arrogance of that escapes you?
I would suggest that your time would be better spent cleaning up your own house rather than lecturing Americans.
Van, why don't you just go ahead and get it off your chest. Say what you really think, don't be afraid. Nobody wiil be able to find you. Regards
That is a really ugly thing to say. Do you honestly think it will make van see Canadians differently? I tell you what my reaction to it is. It confirms my feelings that Canada is no friend of America and that we should be much more wary of the relationship.
You are joking? ...Right?
By Steven Vincent
BAGHDAD, IRAQ — "If you want to feel the pulse of a city — or so the saying goes — talk to local cabbies. Personally, I've found this advice rather ill-advised in New York, where taxi drivers are more likely to offer some alarming conspiracy theory than rough-hewn wisdom from the street. In Baghdad, though, the chestnut is true: Cabbies are good meters of public opinion. Ranging from working-class guys to teachers and other professionals forced by economic hardship to drive for a living, these men are generally honest and observant. Best of all, they're mostly pro-American.
"When asked about their opinion of the U.S., drivers will smile, brush their palms together in a "good riddance" gesture and crow, "Saddam gone! America good!" Others will flash the thumbs-up gesture and exclaim, "America, thank you!" One cabbie became so worked up over the liberation of his country, he exclaimed, "We love U.S.A., do you believe me? They bring us freedom! We need U.S.A!" Worried, perhaps, that I was not American (I try to avoid revealing my nationality unless directly questioned), he added, "We also need Britain, Spain, Poland — even Turkey!"
"Some cabbies, however, take a more temperate view of the U.S. "America not good, not bad," one driver mused. "Right now good, because they want what we want. But in the future — ?" Another told me, "Bush finish Saddam — good. Now America go home" — a sentiment echoed by many of his colleagues. Others express qualified support for the occupation, but complain about the slow restoration of law and order: "Iraq people very tired. When will America bring peace?"
"Occasionally, you meet cabbies who are straightforwardly anti-U.S. "America no good," one maintained. "We thought when American people come we sleep safe in our homes. But no, Iraqi people very afraid. When I drive, my mother prays I have no troubles with thieves, fedayeen, the U.S. Army." The more critical the hack, I've found, the greater the chances he is a Sunni Muslim: Long favored by Saddam, Sunnis stand the most to lose in a democratic Iraq, where power will almost certainly shift to the more numerous Shias. This, in part, explains one Sunni's diatribe: "America good only for America, not Iraqi people. Where are their promises of security, jobs, peace? Where is freedom?" When I asked what "freedom" meant he replied, "Good government respectful of Islam — not freedom to drink alcohol on the streets or believe what you want or have women do what they want." I had the feeling this last possibility was the real scenario he feared.
Still, even the most anti-American drivers treat me with respect. Which is good, considering that cabs are my main means of transport (unlike many NGOs and high-profile journalists, I can't afford to thunder around town in a dreadnought-like SUV). They are ubiquitous, these groaning, rattling, overheating Volkswagen Passants, Chevy Malibus, and Nissan Sunny Super Saloons, each car a marvel of mechanical persistence in the face of ten years of crippling sanctions. Windows fail to open, upholstery is torn or nonexistent, shocks are gone, while exhaust fumes frequently seep into the vehicle's interior, adding another nuance to Baghdad's palette of aromas. The windshields of many cabs are spider webbed with cracks and bullet holes from the war: In one cab, you could actually trace the trajectory of projectiles as they pierced the front window and burrowed into the upholstery of the backseat. By the same token, even though newer cabs increasingly appear on Baghdad streets, many drivers — and their fares, as well — prefer these broken-down jalopies, believing they make less-attractive targets for carjackers and thieves.
Cabbies work 12-hour shifts, making around $7.50 working days, and $8.00 working nights — a "good:" amount, one driver told me. Fares are incredibly cheap: to travel four miles from my hotel to Coalition headquarters I offer $2.00 — an amount some Iraqi hacks have actually refused, claiming it's too much. (Fortunately for these drivers, gas is also inexpensive, around 15 cents a gallon.) In a small, but telling, detail of Iraqi life, a single passenger rides in the front seat — to sit in the back, New York-style, implies that you are somehow subservient to the driver, a gaffe abhorrent to the Arab sense of egalitarianism.
"Not everyone agrees with my informal cab poll. An Iraqi woman critical of both the U.S. and her own people argues that "Iraqis always curry favor from whoever's in power. If Saddam ever came back, the taxi drivers would sing `Oh, Father Saddam, we love you." Perhaps (although I doubt it). Still, how would she explain this cabbie, perhaps my most memorable in Baghdad to date? A big, burly, genial fellow, he picked me up on al-Rasheed Street, his Super Saloon festooned with strips of artificial flowers and the familiar 1970's rock-star-like images of the Shia icons Hussein and Ali. When I asked for his opinion on the occupation, he bellowed, "U.S. good! U.S. fantastic!" After I revealed that I was American, he cried, "God bless President Bush!" Calling Karl Rove, I thought.
"Over the tape-recorded sermons of a Shia cleric, my driver related how last spring he took his two children on a pilgrimage to the holy cities of Karbala and Najaf, something he couldn't do under Saddam. "I was so happy, my family happy!" His comments began tumbling out one after another. First he criticized "Arab media — Al-Jazeera and Arabia TV. They only say bad things about U.S., only talk about bombs and killing Americans. Never about how things are growing in Iraq, getting better." Then he turned to the entire Arab world. "They fear Iraq will become a democracy, then every country will want to become democratic and the rulers will be in trouble-they only want people with one thought, one mind." As for Iraq's future, he had great optimism, provided that the new constitution included religious freedom for everyone — "Muslims, Christians, Jews, because Mohammad said 'Let there be no forcing of religion.' Mohammad said we are all brothers and to kill a man is to kill your brother."
"By the time I reached my hotel, I had a Koran-sized lump in my throat. I peeled off a wad of dinars, but the cabbie refused to take the money. After I implored him to accept payment, he finally took the bills, slipped them in his shirt pocket, then took them out and handed them back to me. "You give me the money, now I give it back to you — a gift to my friend from America." Then, turning up the volume on the imam's sermon, he gave me a big missing-toothed smile and drove off in a cloud of exhaust. Watching him disappear into traffic, I had tears in my eyes, and they weren't from the Baghdad smog."
—" Steven Vincent is a freelance writer.
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