Time to Kiss and Make Up (The snuggle-bunny country north of the Canadian/U.S. border)

You might try holding your fingers tight to your ears and screaming "na na na boo boo" really loud so you won't hear anyone else....

Good answer, did that also come from David Duke's site? I did look up the quote, and posted one of the links. As for the rest of the quotes, all they do is prove that most people who hate America also harbor a paranoid fear and hatred of Jews and Israel. This thread is about US/Canadian relations and suddenly the Jew bashing starts! How predictable. I suggest you follow the David Duke link and read it, you will probably find it suits your taste.

BTW, did you know that The United States of America is the world's foremost economic and military power? I think that is your real problem; too bad there's no cure for it.
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God Bless America

"More ugliness from Canadians."

Most of the ugliness on this thread comes from you, my fellow American..

Well now. That is interesting. Canada has all the technology to build anything that can be built in the USA, so it is not any particular technology that Canada needs.
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And of course Canada can choose to buy from Japan. Korea, Hong Kong, and any number of European sources... So I don't see anything made in America that cannot be easily replaced by either Canadian production or imported from a number of other palces.
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What I do see is Canadas abundance of resources. Those same resources that America ia quickly running out of. Natural gas, Oil, Wood, Potash, Nickle, Zinc, Copper, Uranium, and many many others....
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Since Canada is more than able to use all the technology America has (much of Americas technology was invented here in Canada), Canada would do fine without America.
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So go ahead and build that wall..... We will be fine. nice and warm....
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And need I remind you that in 1943 Canada was the first nation to build nuclear weapons with the USA and the UK. And the first to refuse to posess them.
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Rather Canada went ahead to lead the world in nuclear power production with the first nuclear power plant. On line two months after WWII.
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So although Canada has no nuclear weapons it is certainly not due to its not being able to produce as many as it needs.
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No fear. No one in Canada wants nuclear weapons.... Its just the way we are. Much different than many of you in America.
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America has the respect of the world.... however it is the respect at the end of the gun barrel rather than the respect given true leaders of the world.

Not true, Dr. UnLuving.

And here you said we Americans shoudn't be upset because of "a few insults" and yet, you think that Americans must never insult anyone. It may serve you, Dr. not-very-loving to consider why you are so quick to bash America and Americans and let others off the hook...

I really don't think I need to correct you, but just in case....
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The quote was from a US Senator, and not David Duke. David Duke used that quote again, but it did not originate from him.
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I despise David Duke, and think he is a dastardly repugnant republican/conservative. And I do not think even people like you are in that same catagory. I hope and pray that David Duke is an anomoly, and not the norm.

During Vaughn's stay in England, he found himself criticized on all those levels. Like a boxer countering each blow, he shot back with the best responses he could.

Sometimes the complaints left him speechless, like the time he was told " 'America had no culture' by a kid wearing a Kobe Bryant T-shirt and listening to rapper DMX."

But one incident really stung.

"Man, it was bad," says the Rat Pack-y star of Swingers. "These girls saw us and were kind of flirting, and they kept asking us if we were American. Finally we said, 'Yes,' and they just took off.

"One girl turns and says, 'We were hoping you were Canadian.' Canadian? Since when was it cooler to be Canadian?"

I despise David Duke, and think he is a dastardly repugnant republican/conservative

Keep digging, we can still see your head.

If you choose not to look them up, then that is your problem. You can go to any library and find them. You can go to any of the newspapers and read them

Mike, it's common netiquette to add links when you quote.

I think you minsunderstand... I quoted the sources and when and with who it was said. They are in the quotes. Did you read them?

I don't think you work in the oil and gas business. Primarily because I think you are not aware of the state the industry is in now. Let me point you to a web site that in my opinion explains it very well to the layman.

http://dieoff.org/

Its a bit of a read, and some here will not understand it, but so far it is the best I have seen on the web. There are other sites that collaborate with this one, but they are not as easy to understand as this one is.

enjoy.....

Canadians, especially, imo, would do well to exhibit some understanding of the betrayal that their country perpetrated on America over the Iraq war

I agree.

I don't blame you for being angry. I myself feel betrayed by a government that governed by opinion polls not principles. We should have stood with you and it is disgraceful that we did not.

The question now is what do we do about? We can burn our bridges or we can try and forge new ones.

this is an American site. And it would serve you well to develop some respect and appreciation for that.

If I didn't respect and appreciate this site I wouldn't come here. I salute Jim Rob. He has made a site that people from all over the world come to to discuss and learn. And have fun doing it.

I think it would serve you well for you to develop some appreciation and respect for America.

What can we do to show you appreciation and respect?

a link looks like this

You guys have been hit by people from a liberal forum in Kanada and there is no use in trying to reason with them.
They are not bright and have no way of understanding any new ideas you members have. You want to read their trash? Site is: http://www.forums.mytelus.com

What they call International News is jingo jargon they all speak. They are of one mind, one opinion and will not tolerate dissenters. There is much criticism of Americans. I guess it is easier than looking at their own rotten government.

They are too close for comfort with their open door to Islam and would like nothing better than watch the U.S. crumble.

You begin by blaming "right-wingers" for the shocking ignorance of American students, then fail to mention that the educational system hasn't exactly been in the hands of anyone remotely conservative since the early 70's.

You're right, someone should be embarrassed. I'd say that someone (or someones) would be the NEA. And conservatives scream about the Trojan horse nature of that organization more loudly than anyone.

A side note about an conversation I had with a Canadian on an adoption board to which I belong. She complained to our list that one of her neighbors had a problem with the neighborhood children playing in his yard while they waited for the school bus. Most of us on the list are U.S. citizens, and we pointed out that the neighbor's yard was, after all his yard. She thought about that, and realized we were probably right, but commented on the difference between our attitudes of private property. I thought it was interesting, although I'm not going to deduce from this that Canadians don't believe in property rights.

Bad link posted. Site in previous message should be:
http://forums.mytelus.com

I know you hate Canada.... I know you hate Canadians..... But the reat of the world does not. Some even take the time to say thank you.... Others .... don't..... It took George Bush 36 hours to say anything about the killings. And that was only after a hounding from the Press! It's no wonder we basically told Bush to FOAD regarding Iraq....

Salute to a brave and modest nation
- Kevin Myers, National Post

As our country honours the last of its four dead soldiers, we reprint a remarkable tribute to Canada's record of quiet valour in wartime that appeared in the Telegraph, one of Britain's largest circulation newspapers.

LONDON -- Until the deaths last week of four Canadian soldiers accidentally killed by a U.S. warplane in Afghanistan, probably almost no one outside their home country had been aware that Canadian troops were deployed in the region. And as always, Canada will now bury its dead, just as the rest of the world as always will forget its sacrifice, just as it always forgets nearly everything Canada ever does.

It seems that Canada's historic mission is to come to the selfless aid both of its friends and of complete strangers, and then, once the crisis is over, to be well and truly ignored.

Canada is the perpetual wallflower that stands on the edge of the hall, waiting for someone to come and ask her for a dance. A fire breaks out, she risks life and limb to rescue her fellow dance-goers, and suffers serious injuries. But when the hall is repaired and the dancing resumes, there is Canada, the wallflower still, while those she once helped glamorously cavort across the floor, blithely neglecting her yet again.

That is the price Canada pays for sharing the North American continent with the United States, and for being a selfless friend of Britain in two global conflicts.

For much of the 20th century, Canada was torn in two different directions: It seemed to be a part of the old world, yet had an address in the new one, and that divided identity ensured that it never fully got the gratitude it deserved.

Yet its purely voluntary contribution to the cause of freedom in two world wars was perhaps the greatest of any democracy.

Almost 10% of Canada's entire population of seven million people served in the armed forces during the First World War, and nearly 60,000 died. The great Allied victories of 1918 were spearheaded by Canadian troops, perhaps the most capable soldiers in the entire order of battle.

Canada was repaid for its enormous sacrifice by downright neglect, its unique contribution to victory being absorbed into the popular memory as somehow or other the work of the "British." The Second World War provided a re-run. The Canadian navy began the war with a half dozen vessels, and ended up policing nearly half of the Atlantic against U-boat attack.

More than 120 Canadian warships participated in the Normandy landings, during which 15,000 Canadian soldiers went ashore on D-Day alone. Canada finished the war with the third-largest navy and the fourth-largest air force in the world.

The world thanked Canada with the same sublime indifference as it had the previous time. Canadian participation in the war was acknowledged in film only if it was necessary to give an American actor a part in a campaign in which the United States had clearly not participated -- a touching scrupulousness which, of course, Hollywood has since
abandoned, as it has any notion of a separate Canadian identity.

So it is a general rule that actors and filmmakers arriving in Hollywood keep their nationality -- unless, that is, they are Canadian. Thus Mary Pickford, Walter Huston, Donald Sutherland, Michael J. Fox, William Shatner, Norman Jewison, David Cronenberg and Dan Aykroyd have in the popular perception become American, and Christopher Plummer,
British. It is as if, in the very act of becoming famous, a Canadian ceases to be Canadian, unless she is Margaret Atwood, who is as unshakably Canadian as a moose, or Celine Dion, for whom Canada has proved quite unable to find any takers.

Moreover, Canada is every bit as querulously alert to the achievements of its sons and daughters as the rest of the world is completely unaware of them. The Canadians proudly say of themselves -- and are unheard by anyone else -- that 1% of the world's population has provided 10% of the world's peacekeeping forces.

Canadian soldiers in the past half century have been the greatest peacekeepers on Earth -- in 39 missions on UN mandates, and six on non-UN peacekeeping duties, from Vietnam to East Timor, from Sinai to Bosnia.

Yet the only foreign engagement that has entered the popular
non-Canadian imagination was the sorry affair in Somalia, in which out-of-control paratroopers murdered two Somali infiltrators. Their regiment was then disbanded in disgrace -- a uniquely Canadian act of self-abasement for which, naturally, the Canadians received no international credit.

So who today in the United States knows about the stoic and selfless friendship its northern neighbour has given it in Afghanistan?

Rather like Cyrano de Bergerac, Canada repeatedly does honourable things for honourable motives, but instead of being thanked for it, it remains something of a figure of fun.

It is the Canadian way, for which Canadians should be proud, yet such honour comes at a high cost.

This week, four more grieving Canadian families knew that cost all too tragically well.

Had a quick look. Seems to be one fellow named "Crapdetector" fighting the good fight against the hordes of ignorance. Here's a quote from him.

"Sorry to burst your negativity bubble Less, but Bush is doing fine and will probably be elected to another term. The economy is catching fire with 7.2% growth in the last quarter and the vast majority in the US support the war in Iraq. They will win and no one will care about your mistaken and irrelevant opinion in the end Less. Finally, a President who acts like a leader and who can differentiate right from wrong!"

"I don't blame you for being angry. I myself feel betrayed by a government that governed by opinion polls not principles. We should have stood with you and it is disgraceful that we did not."

I appreciate you saying that. I may be wrong, but I think you are the only Canadian on this thread to acknowldege the wrong done to America by Canada. Reading the posts on this thread from Canadians only gives credence to what I have been saying (you are the exception, and I think one other person) -- and that is -- that Canada is a pretty anti-American place. Apparently that's no big deal to Snowyman and he can't see the connection between anti-Americanism, creeping socialism and a threat to American conservatism. Obviously, the post you are quoting to me was written to Snowyman, who seems to me to be dishonoring and disrespecting this site and America. And his and the other ugly and anti-American posts are the kinds of posts and posters that irk me. I mean the anti-Jewish bigot should not even be allowed on this site, imo. There is just no excuse for that.

I don't have any beef with you. That's why I haven't written to you :-) I have read your posts and it's clear that you do respect America, and I appreciate that. However, your fellow Canadians on this thread have been pretty ugly and, imo, have no business posting here. No business whatsoever.

"The question now is what do we do about? We can burn our bridges or we can try and forge new ones."

I'm not sure I would look at it as those beings the options. I'm not ready to forge anything with Canada. I think given the level of betrayal, the thing to do is to strengthen our bonds with those countries who stood with us. I don't see any reason to try and work things out with Canada. Why should we? Canada needs to change. And electing Paul Martin is not going to do it I don't think. I have no interest in trying to work things out with France or Germany or Syria either. Those who betrayed us made clear their position and I think we would be foolish to trust them in the future.

I'm hoping to make a couple of points here, among them, that this is an American site and foreigners really ought to show some respect. It doesn't say anywhere on the opening page - "come in here if you'd like to debate an American". It says that this site is about promoting conservatism in America and if that is not something that Canadians or other foreigners want to do -- then I would suggest that this is not the site for them. There's a whole internet world out there -- thanks to America :-)

Re Crapdetector. There are three or four people who argue another side of many of the subjects but they are outnumbered. It is getting worse as they attack anything that is unacceptable to their logic. They also suggest the weirdest things, like "if the U.S. invades Canada."

One poster is particularly badgered by the mob. I am reminded of a revolution scene in an old movie. You know the gathering hordes shouting "off with his head".

They cannot be serious people. It is like watching a sorry regression of intellect take place. That is my observation and not a very kind one.

Their subjects seem hostile if anything and most of them are unwilling to discuss only confirm their own ideas through others.

I believe my unrest with this group is they are so close to the U.S. and have such ridiculous immigration laws. It is an open invitation to those unwelcome in the U.S. who find a convenient passage through that country.