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Congresswoman goes on offensive over fear of e-mail tax
Knoxnews.com ^ | October 31, 2003 | By RICHARD POWELSON

Posted on 11/04/2003 6:27:25 AM PST by GirlyGirl2003

Congresswoman goes on offensive over fear of e-mail tax

By RICHARD POWELSON, powelsonr@shns.com
October 31, 2003

WASHINGTON - U.S. Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., warned Thursday that governments might start taxing every e-mail transmission if Congress does not quickly renew a federal ban on Internet-access taxes expiring Saturday.

The National Governors Association and Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander's staff, however, said they knew of no interest in governments taxing e-mails.

A Senate bill on the matter has been held up by Alexander and a few other senators who heard from their governors that the wording of the bill could begin denying the states hundreds of millions of dollars per year from existing sales taxes on phone, cable and wireless telecommunications services.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., has been working on a compromise to make Alexander and various states happy while continuing the ban in many states on taxing monthly Internet access services, such as AOL.

Tennessee, which had a tax applied to Internet access originating inside the state before the federal ban started in 1998, receives about $18 million a year in such tax revenue.

The state of Tennessee also is concerned that $360 million in annual sales taxes on other telecommunications - land-line phones, wireless phones and cable TV - could be lost under the current wording of the Senate bill, so Alexander has been trying to block the bill until it is revised.

Frist spokesman Nick Smith said he was not aware of any governments wanting to tax each e-mail. "We have not been contacted by any state government indicating that they would expand their desire to tax at this time. But allowing the moratorium to expire could potentially open the door for new taxes on the Internet."

Blackburn's warning came in a written statement sent to newspapers for publication as an op-ed piece, and she reiterated it in a subsequent interview.

Blackburn said she was concerned that if Congress does not renew the ban on Internet access taxes, local areas could tax an e-mail each time it passed from one computer server to another. She urged the Senate to quickly pass the House-passed ban on Internet access taxes.

"We can chuckle about (an e-mail tax) now, but we won't be laughing if America's thousands of taxing jurisdictions actually start taxing e-mail," Blackburn said. "And that is exactly what could happen if we do not extend this moratorium by Friday night."

Alexander spokeswoman Alexia Poe said the senator respects Blackburn and her views. "In his opinion, this is not an issue about taxing e-mails. That's not part of the debate. He's been very clear that his concerns are the federal government and Washington telling Tennessee how to do its business. He has not heard of any government trying to tax emails."

NGA spokesman David Quam said he has heard of no state interested in taxing e-mails. But he said states are interested in keeping millions of dollars in current revenues on various telecommunications services that they fear are at risk if the Senate bill is not revised.

Tennessee's state commissioner of revenue, Loren Chumley, said she does not understand why some in Congress are trying to give large telecommunications companies a tax break, cut state revenues and say it is "something good for consumers."

Said Chumley, "At a time when states are in the greatest fiscal crisis of all time, why is Congress looking at pre-empting states taxing things that are already on their books?"

If Congress misses the Saturday deadline to renew the ban on Internet access taxes, it could pass a ban later that is retroactive to Saturday, Quam and members of Congress said, so states would be unlikely to rush to new taxes.


Washington bureau staff writer Richard Powelson may be contacted at 202-408-2727.

Get Copyright Clearance Copyright 2003, Knoxville News-Sentinel Co.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: email; government; internettaxes; tax; taxation
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To: paulklenk
I realize you are quoting from the article, but as I said before, the writer of the article got it wrong. No one but an idiot would believe we're going to tax e-mails.

Well get ready because there are plans in the works in Texas to tax every email that passes through a server in this state even if neither the sender of receiver are here. The politicians have been waiting for this for at least a year.

21 posted on 11/04/2003 6:47:14 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: HoundsTooth_BP
Right. In the end, it would mean higher rates for internet access.
22 posted on 11/04/2003 6:48:18 AM PST by GirlyGirl2003 (ACLU: Anti-Christian Lawyers Union)
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To: GirlyGirl2003
While I sincerely doubt that any state or city will be rushing to tax the Internet, the people here scoffing at the idea of taxing e-mails shouldn't be laughing so hard. The idea of putting a per-email tax into law is quitely being discussed as one of the solutions to end spamming. Ideas have ranged from a flat penny per e-mail to a sliding scale, running from nothing for those who e-mail less than five thousand e-mails a year to hundreds of thousands for those who mail millions of e-mails.

Methods of taxation would be centered not on individuals, but on servers that send e-mail. Strange as it sounds, the question of what type of paper and adhesive would be best for placing a tax stamp on servers has been discussed as well.

And you know what? Getting more than 1,500 junk e-mails a day, I'm about ready to start ponying up money for such a tax.
23 posted on 11/04/2003 6:50:33 AM PST by kingu (Just helping...)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Well get ready because there are plans in the works in Texas to tax every email that passes through a server in this state even if neither the sender of receiver are here. The politicians have been waiting for this for at least a year.

Good. The volume of spam alone will pay off the National Debt. Let's see them collect it from spammers...Hahaha!

24 posted on 11/04/2003 6:53:23 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Contents may have settled during shipping, but this tagline contains the stated product weight.)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
I'm about to post an update to this article. I will place a link here in a moment.
25 posted on 11/04/2003 6:54:53 AM PST by GirlyGirl2003 (ACLU: Anti-Christian Lawyers Union)
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To: kingu
(And you know what? Getting more than 1,500 junk e-mails a day, I'm about ready to start ponying up money for such a tax)

I don't want to pay any more taxes regardless of junk e-mails.

You must sign up to alot of things, for how do you get so many otherwise?
26 posted on 11/04/2003 6:55:40 AM PST by HoundsTooth_BP
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To: GirlyGirl2003
We already pay quite a premium to get on the internet. The taxes on my telephone bill are always going up. We have the Al Gore tax that they slipped in on us and I doubly hate it.

Besides paying the provider and telephone bill, almost all stores you order from charge their sales tax.

We are already paying a heavy load of tax.


27 posted on 11/04/2003 7:00:36 AM PST by HoundsTooth_BP
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To: HoundsTooth_BP
New update to this article

Just click on the above and you'll see even more info on this subject hot off the hard drives.

28 posted on 11/04/2003 7:01:53 AM PST by GirlyGirl2003 (ACLU: Anti-Christian Lawyers Union)
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To: paulklenk; GirlyGirl2003
No one but an idiot would believe we're going to tax e-mails.

I am glad to know that the writer of the article got it wrong. As to the above comment, however, I would assert that "all things are possible."

I, personally, would never underestimate a governmental entity's willingness, nay eargerness, to attempt to separate you and I from our hard-earned income and/or accumulated wealth in any way they possibly can.

I suspect some of the framers of the Federal Constitution may well have said that "No one but an idiot would believe we're going to tax income."

29 posted on 11/04/2003 7:02:21 AM PST by Tired_of_the_Lies
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To: GirlyGirl2003
Your post warns of an e-mail tax. How would the tax be levied? How would a count of e-mail passing through servers be measured? How would it be regulated? There are some serious technical issues when it comes to attempting to regulate e-mail.
30 posted on 11/04/2003 7:07:09 AM PST by FourPeas
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To: paulklenk
No one but an idiot would believe we're going to tax e-mails.

"if we pass this income tax, soon we'll be taxing at a 5% rate!"... spoken in the US Senate in 1913.

Never underestimate the hunger gov't has for our money. If there's an opening, some will take advantage...jmho.

31 posted on 11/04/2003 7:08:30 AM PST by Principled
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To: FourPeas
How? Technically, how could it be done? How would it be monitored/regulated?

These are EXACTLY the same questions posed when debating the implementation of a tax on income here in the US. Hence the IRS.

32 posted on 11/04/2003 7:09:51 AM PST by Principled
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To: paulklenk
You seem to feel so superior to others.
33 posted on 11/04/2003 7:11:07 AM PST by Principled
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To: paulklenk
I heard this being talked about by a GOP Congressman on Rush last week. I forget who the guest host was. It's not a joke.

The federal ban on internet taxes expired Oct. 31 due to Senate stonewalling. IIRC, Cantwell (D-Wash) Conrad (D-N.D), Voinovich (R-Ohio) and another R were responsible.

34 posted on 11/04/2003 7:12:44 AM PST by Tribune7 (It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
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To: HoundsTooth_BP
You must sign up to alot of things, for how do you get so many otherwise?

I have my own domain (WHOIS databases are a spammer's wet dream) and my e-mail address dates back to Feb 2, 1996. My other e-mail accounts don't get anywhere near the same level of spam. The domain's account gets 1,500 a day, the other e-mail addresses range from 12-200, depending upon the age of the e-mail address.

And before someone recommends spamkiller or the like, SpamAssassin, running on the server, does filter through a goodly number of them for me. Any other anti-spam program chokes and crashes on the volume.
35 posted on 11/04/2003 7:13:48 AM PST by kingu (Just helping...)
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To: GirlyGirl2003
Nice post. Thanks.
36 posted on 11/04/2003 7:14:08 AM PST by Tribune7 (It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
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To: Principled
You seem to have missed my point.
37 posted on 11/04/2003 7:14:11 AM PST by FourPeas
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To: Tribune7
Thank YOU!
38 posted on 11/04/2003 7:15:26 AM PST by GirlyGirl2003 (ACLU: Anti-Christian Lawyers Union)
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To: FourPeas
What point do you believe that I missed?
39 posted on 11/04/2003 7:15:36 AM PST by Principled
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To: Principled
To: paulklenk

"No one but an idiot would believe we're going to tax e-mails."

"if we pass this income tax, soon we'll be taxing at a 5% rate!"... spoken in the US Senate in 1913.

Never underestimate the hunger gov't has for our money. If there's an opening, some will take advantage...jmho.

31 posted on 11/04/2003 9:08 AM CST by Principled

Some actually trust govenment to do the right thing with regards to taxation. You have to wonder how long they've been alive.

40 posted on 11/04/2003 7:18:39 AM PST by GirlyGirl2003 (ACLU: Anti-Christian Lawyers Union)
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