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‘Something’ felled an M1A1 Abrams tank in Iraq – but what?
Army Times ^ | 11/3/04 | John Roos

Posted on 11/03/2003 5:35:56 PM PST by Fighting Irish

Shortly before dawn on Aug. 28, an M1A1 Abrams tank on routine patrol in Baghdad “was hit by something” that crippled the 69-ton behemoth.

Army officials still are puzzling over what that “something” was.

According to an unclassified Army report, the mystery projectile punched through the vehicle’s skirt and drilled a pencil-sized hole through the hull. The hole was so small that “my little finger will not go into it,” the report’s author noted.

The “something” continued into the crew compartment, where it passed through the gunner’s seatback, grazed the kidney area of the gunner’s flak jacket and finally came to rest after boring a hole 1½ to 2 inches deep in the hull on the far side of the tank.

As it passed through the interior, it hit enough critical components to knock the tank out of action. That made the tank one of only two Abrams disabled by enemy fire during the Iraq war and one of only a handful of “mobility kills” since they first rumbled onto the scene 20 years ago. The other Abrams knocked out this year in Iraq was hit by an RPG-7, a rocket-propelled grenade.

Experts believe whatever it is that knocked out the tank in August was not an RPG-7 but most likely something new — and that worries tank drivers.

(Excerpt) Read more at armytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abrams; army; mysteryweapon; tank; weapon
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1 posted on 11/03/2003 5:35:57 PM PST by Fighting Irish
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To: Fighting Irish
bump
2 posted on 11/03/2003 5:38:59 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: Fighting Irish
Some interesting comments here and here.
3 posted on 11/03/2003 5:41:20 PM PST by dighton (Neo-Conservative Power Vortex™)
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To: Fighting Irish
Very interesting, thanks for posting...
4 posted on 11/03/2003 5:42:39 PM PST by Akira (Blessed are the cheesemakers.)
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To: dighton
Woooooops! Thanks...didn't know this was a re-post.sorry

Moderator....do your thing!

5 posted on 11/03/2003 5:42:54 PM PST by Fighting Irish
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To: Fighting Irish
Thank goodness the crew wasn't hurt by whatever it was. I can see why the tank crews would be worried. On the plus side, it sounds like whatever this thing is has been designed to disable the mechanicals of the tank rather than kill the crew.
6 posted on 11/03/2003 5:43:10 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Fighting Irish
I have viewed pictures of the incident and am totally snowed. I can think of two basic questions in regards to the situation. The first, what weapon has the velocity to do what happened to the tank? The second, is what alloy allowed such penetration without total self-destruction.

On a totally wild stab as to answers, I would guess the launcher would be of the electro magnetic type, capable of over 6000 FPS. I know the US is testing such. The projectile ??? I haven't a clue.

Regardless, I think crews or armored vehicles will not sleep as well, henceforth.

7 posted on 11/03/2003 5:49:09 PM PST by Joee
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To: Fighting Irish
ping for later review!
8 posted on 11/03/2003 5:52:26 PM PST by Kay Soze ('Tis safer in Sunni triangle than in the liberally controlled area known as Los Angeles.)
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To: colorado tanker; archy
Seen this??
9 posted on 11/03/2003 5:54:50 PM PST by cavtrooper21 (Tree huggers be damned! I am not cat chow!!!)
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To: Fighting Irish
I wonder if our old adversaries in Russia are behind this new technology??
10 posted on 11/03/2003 5:54:58 PM PST by Justice
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To: Fighting Irish
laser?
11 posted on 11/03/2003 5:56:57 PM PST by Sabatier
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To: cavtrooper21
Seen this??

Yep. See earlier FReeppost *here*.

12 posted on 11/03/2003 5:59:58 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Sabatier
"Laser!" No, I don't think so, as a projectile was involved.
13 posted on 11/03/2003 6:00:06 PM PST by Joee
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To: archy
ok.
sorry.
14 posted on 11/03/2003 6:01:13 PM PST by cavtrooper21 (Tree huggers be damned! I am not cat chow!!!)
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To: Joee
But think of the electrical energy that would be needed, if you're talking railgun or the like.
15 posted on 11/03/2003 6:12:27 PM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: Fighting Irish
So the only question here, is this one of the weapons Russia was selling Hussein under the table, or one of the weapons France was selling Hussein under the table?
16 posted on 11/03/2003 6:24:49 PM PST by swilhelm73
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To: MindBender26
It was a shaped charge of some sort, not any type of rail gun.
17 posted on 11/03/2003 7:04:47 PM PST by Husker24
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To: Husker24
Agreed, this was not a railgun, this was a sophisticated RPG, and it happened accidentally or on purposely hit one of the weakest parts of the tank.

I don't know if any of you have seen pictures, but the projectile went through near a hinge in the skirt and just above one of the wheel assemblies, there are weak spots, not many, but some.

This was nothing more then a sophisticated RPG that either got lucky, or the guy was a really good shot.
18 posted on 11/03/2003 7:08:45 PM PST by Ogmios (Since when is 66 senate votes for judicial confirmations constitutional?)
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To: Husker24
Agree. Was posting to #15 who thought it might be. Also, agree it was lucky shot. RPG very inaccurate.
19 posted on 11/03/2003 8:09:25 PM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: Husker24
Agree. Was posting to #15 who thought it might be ELECTRIC. Also, agree it was lucky shot. RPG very inaccurate.
20 posted on 11/03/2003 8:09:50 PM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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