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To: general_re; betty boop
Thank you so much for your reply!

Nevertheless, by invoking a creator of some type, regardless of what that creator might be like, I don't think it's unfair to describe ID as one of many creationist theories.

I would tend to order it the other way around, with the group heading "Intelligent Design theories" and underneath - Judeo/Christian, YEC, panspermia, universal consciousness, etc.

This would be in contrast to the many naturalistic/materialistic theories, which do not invoke a creator/designer (or creators/designers, for that matter), either in particular or in general.

I personally believe that naturalistic/materialistic theories - all strongly deterministic theories - also point to a creation despite all their objections to the contrary. I say this because all of the theories require a beginning - even imaginary time theory, multi-verses and ekpyrotic cosmology.

When faced with this issue the only metaphysically naturalist appeal remaining is "anthropic principle" which is kinda like covering one's ears and singing loudly.

140 posted on 11/04/2003 10:46:40 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
I would tend to order it the other way around, with the group heading "Intelligent Design theories" and underneath - Judeo/Christian, YEC, panspermia, universal consciousness, etc.

That hardly seems unreasonable, if you find it more convenient or more accurate to think of it in those terms.

I personally believe that naturalistic/materialistic theories - all strongly deterministic theories - also point to a creation despite all their objections to the contrary. I say this because all of the theories require a beginning - even imaginary time theory, multi-verses and ekpyrotic cosmology.

Possibly. Perhaps some things are simply not knowable to us. Yet. ;)

155 posted on 11/04/2003 11:16:49 AM PST by general_re ("I am Torgo. I take care of the place while the Master is away.")
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