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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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10,422 posted on 01/15/2004 3:27:42 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: nw_arizona_granny
I don't know if they are specifically Chinese, but there are huge areas in Newark along the river that contain thousands and thousands of cargo carriers off loaded from foreign ships. This is also where cars that are imported are offloaded and kept until they are transported to other parts of the country. These areas are very close to newark airport. In fact, depending upon the flight pattern, planes may fly over these ares.
10,428 posted on 01/15/2004 4:28:41 AM PST by crabbie
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To: crabbie
There is a Cosco listed in Port Newark, NJ, the area I mentioned. This area also has alot of oil refineries. All this is very close to Newark (Liberty) Airport along the NJ Turnpike around exit 13, 13A, across the Hudson from New York City. One would travel on the turnpike past these areas to the Holland or Lincoln tunnels to get into NYC.
10,430 posted on 01/15/2004 4:39:04 AM PST by crabbie
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10,432 posted on 01/15/2004 4:41:31 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: liz44040
Costco is a chain of stores like SamsClub. Cosco is a Chinese conclomerate that includes an international cargo carrier shipping component.
10,433 posted on 01/15/2004 4:42:34 AM PST by crabbie
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To: tubavil
LOL!
10,436 posted on 01/15/2004 4:57:11 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: tubavil
Sheeeeeeey*t! I think I just found FR's longest thread!
10,437 posted on 01/15/2004 5:29:38 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Spam...it's what's for the computer...)
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Man On National No Fly List Tries To Board Plane In Boise -trying to buy a one way ticket

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Posted on 01/15/2004 5:29:26 AM PST by chance33_98

Man On National No Fly List Tries To Board Plane In Boise

BOISE - A man trying to buy a one way ticket to Minneapolis from the Boise Air Terminal triggered a delay for some passengers.

Julian Gonzales, Boise Transportation Security Administration Director says the man's name showed up on the national no fly list when he attempted to buy a one way ticket to Minneapolis at about 1:00pm Wednesday. No details have been made available as to why the man is on the list.

The man took off and police and the FBI were contacted. As a result the Northwest Airlines plane the man was trying to get on was de-boarded and all the passengers and carry on luggage were re-screened.

10,438 posted on 01/15/2004 5:50:51 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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1,700 planes intercepted, but tests show terrorists could still strike Washington by air

By JOHN SOLOMON
The Associated Press
1/15/04 1:47 AM

WASHINGTON (AP) -- U.S. and Canadian military aircraft have scrambled nearly 1,700 times to intercept or divert suspicious aircraft since Sept. 11, but routine drills illustrate how terrorists could penetrate the airspace around the nation's capital.

"We do these tests to push the system, find holes, and when we find holes we correct them," said Canadian Army Maj. Douglas Martin of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD).

"Every time we do a test, or an evaluation or exercise, we're getting better at defending the national capital region," he said.

Officials said the exercises conducted in early- and mid-December are the latest to show that the best prevention against another terror tragedy in the skies is thorough pre-emptive intelligence and screening, not a last-minute intercept or shootdown of a hijacked commercial airliner.

Those officials talked to The Associated Press about the classified results of the drills only on condition of anonymity. They said U.S. military officials have concluded it would be very difficult to intercept a hijacked plane within a certain radius of major cities like Washington unless fighter jets were already airborne.

Possible airline hijackings were a major concern around the New Year's holiday, when nervous U.S. officials caused a number of international flights to or from Washington and Los Angeles to be canceled or severely delayed. F-16 fighter jets reportedly escorted some flights as they approached U.S. airports.

In some of the tests in December, officials withheld fighter jets in order to check other last-resort defenses around the capital such as ground-to-air missiles and artillery, Secret Service protection and Federal Aviation Administration communications, the officials said.

The officials declined to provide more specific details about the drills except to say that under some circumstances Homeland Security planes posing as mock terrorists were able to penetrate protected air space.

The officials declined to define the zone in which scrambling military jets become ineffective although they noted the government typically creates a buffer of just over 30 miles when setting up temporary protected air space around special events or presidential locations.

Homeland Security officials said there have been numerous tests of the air defense system nationwide since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, and areas for improvement have been identified and addressed.

"Since Sept. 11, Homeland Security and the Department of Defense have vastly improved the coordination response capacity of the nation's air defenses, and we are continually exercising and training to ensure we have the right assets in place to address any threats," Homeland spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said.

"Our goal is to target the risk long before any passenger goes through security and board an aircraft," he said, citing a litany of preventative measures from air marshals and armed pilots to improved passenger screening and reinforced cockpit doors.

Homeland Security officials are examining ways to refine the color-coded system that provides Americans with terror alerts, but officials already have begun targeting intelligence alerts and specific security measures to specific areas and industries in instances where the entire nation doesn't need to go to a higher alert.

Officials said in some cases, specific companies and installations are now getting customized terror alerts based on intelligence about their vulnerabilities -- all in recognition that prevention beforehand will be more successful than a last-minute effort to stop an attack.

Officials said there were two tests in the Washington area -- one in early December known as a "tabletop exercise" because it was simulated, and another Dec. 13-16 when live aircraft were used in mock terrorist plots.

Officials said the conditions often were made extreme to test the outer limits of air defense capabilities, and that some penetrations or failures were intentional.

For instance, fighter jets failed to intercept enemy aircraft, and other times they did so to see how other air defenses would respond, officials said.

Overall, the nation's air safety net is getting improved marks with each test. And officials point to the fact that nearly 1,700 times since Sept. 11, fighter jets have successfully been scrambled to intercept or escort suspicious planes.

One such intercept of a wayward plane occurred over the White House late last year. At least 12 aircraft were escorted or intercepted after unintentionally invading the protected air space over the Winter Olympics in Utah in 2002.

Officials agreed to discuss the results of air defense drills in broad terms to highlight that, with intelligence pointing toward al-Qaida's continued determination to conduct more terror attacks through the air, the best prevention is through pre-emptive screening and detailed intelligence.

The officials stressed the December air tests played no role in the decision Dec. 21 to raise the nation's terror alert to the second highest color, orange, for the holidays because of threats to airliners. The test had been planned long before the alert was raised.

That decision was based on detailed intelligence that suggested al-Qaida was interested in exploiting more lax security overseas and hijacking a foreign airliner that was passing through American skies.

That intelligence, which in some cases included possible air routes, came from a variety of sources, including electronic intercepts of conversations between suspected terrorists, interrogations of al-Qaida prisoners and intercepted communications over the Internet, officials said.

The FBI, CIA and Homeland Security Department used the intelligence to scour airplane manifests on the most likely air routes to look for any passengers whose names closely resembled those in terrorist watch lists.

In one case, an Air France flight to Washington was canceled because a half dozen passenger names were close enough to those of a suspected terrorists on watch lists -- especially with transliterations between Arabic and English. At least one passenger turned out to be a youth and none were deemed terrorists.

10,439 posted on 01/15/2004 5:56:34 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Cosco ships all up and down the East Coast almost daily. Something in Delaware bay I think, one in Florida, and the biggest container port in the world in Bermuda.
That of course means there is a big Chinese naval base in the Carribean.

But the murdering communist Chinese government is our friend. They are helping us by taking all our dirty, noisy manufacturing companies home with them.
10,440 posted on 01/15/2004 6:09:10 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The only thing standing between the rule of law and anarchy is that conservatives are good losers!)
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