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Chinooks Grounded During Daylight Hours
CNSNews.com ^ | 11/03/03 | Susan Jones

Posted on 11/03/2003 4:59:34 AM PST by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - The U.S. Army reportedly is grounding all Chinook helicopters in Iraq during daylight hours, following a deadly attack on a Chinook over the weekend. Press reports on Monday said the Chinooks will fly only at night to avoid becoming targets for America's enemies in Iraq. Fifteen U.S. soldiers died over the weekend when a missile hit a helicopter that was carrying them on the first leg of their journey back to America for some rest and relaxation. Another 16 soldiers were injured, some critically, and they were airlifted to a U.S. military hospital in Germany on Monday. President Bush has not yet commented on the missile attack that downed the helicopter near Fallujah, but the White House released a statement saying, "The terrorists seek to kill coalition forces and innocent Iraqis because they want us to run, but our will and resolve are unshakable." Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld called it "a tragic day for America," but he said such days are "part of a war that's difficult and complicated.""



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chinooks; iraq
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1 posted on 11/03/2003 4:59:34 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
They shouldn't even reveal that they'll be flying at night. It's nobody's business but the military's.
2 posted on 11/03/2003 5:19:41 AM PST by mass55th
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To: kattracks
Infrared SAMs don't work at night? Huh?
3 posted on 11/03/2003 5:26:04 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: kattracks
Now THIS stuff reminds me of Vietman!

Ground them, maybe..announce it? NEVER!

Looks like a victory for the Ramarags
4 posted on 11/03/2003 5:27:41 AM PST by No!
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To: sam_paine
That's what I was wondering as well. This might protect from RPGs and weapons fire but I don't see how it would protect from something more sophisticated.
5 posted on 11/03/2003 5:40:30 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: sam_paine
exactly..
6 posted on 11/03/2003 5:42:48 AM PST by mystery-ak (Mike's coming home Nov 3rd for his two-week furlough.....HOOAH!!1)
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To: kattracks
WWND?= What would Nixon do?

Nixon would have leveled Fallujah with B-52 strikes, and the helicopters would fly day or night.

7 posted on 11/03/2003 5:56:01 AM PST by gitmogrunt (Not tough enough on the religion of peace)
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To: sam_paine
If you can't see an aircraft, it is hard to launch an IR SAM at it. All Russian IR SAM's require the shooter to find the target first with his eyeballs.
8 posted on 11/03/2003 6:10:27 AM PST by Rokke
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To: No!
"Ground them, maybe..announce it? NEVER! "

Who said it was announced.

9 posted on 11/03/2003 6:24:50 AM PST by elfman2
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To: ExSoldier; PLMerite
FYI

...comments?

10 posted on 11/03/2003 6:31:10 AM PST by Landru
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To: gitmogrunt
Nixon would have leveled Fallujah with B-52 strikes, and the helicopters would fly day or night.

Round up the women and children, herd em off to camp, level every thing else...
start all over with a new town. Call it Free Fallujah.

I'd do this with a couple of other "hot spot" towns too. I don't think it would take too many to get the message across.

11 posted on 11/03/2003 6:39:19 AM PST by evad (Vote early and vote often)
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To: mass55th
They shouldn't even reveal that they'll be flying at night. It's nobody's business but the military's.

It would take a terrorist about one night of staying up and listening for the sound to figure this out.
12 posted on 11/03/2003 6:44:41 AM PST by lelio
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To: evad
Are we there to install democracy of brutally subjugate an enemy? I imagine it'll end of the latter but only after we suffer a mortal wound of some sort. Babylon gonna fall.
13 posted on 11/03/2003 6:54:26 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: lelio
"It would take a terrorist about one night of staying up and listening for the sound to figure this out."

But if they continually change their take-off times and the routes taken, they might be able to avoid danger.

14 posted on 11/03/2003 7:00:34 AM PST by mass55th
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To: evad
It worked so well for the Athenians at Melos, no?
15 posted on 11/03/2003 7:12:46 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: kinghorse
Are we there to install democracy of brutally subjugate an enemy?

My only reason for us being there is to seek out and destroy our enemy in the war on terror.

If in the process we happen to install some type of democracy, well, that would be a nice perk.

If we are able to actually facilitate a peace loving and thriving Iraq of the future in the middle of that cesspool called the Middle East, that would be an even nicer perk.

But it still isn't my reason for being there.

16 posted on 11/03/2003 7:22:40 AM PST by evad (Vote early and vote often)
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To: No!

Looks like a victory for the Ramarags

That seems to be standard procedure with this administration. Every time the terrorists do something bad, instead of responding to the threat, they hand them an even bigger victory. This modus operandi goes all the way back to shortly after September 11, 2001, when Dubya and th' boyz shoved the (ANTI)Patriot Act down our throats, effectively taking away more of the freedoms and liberties that US citizens used to enjoy, than the terrorists could have damaged, had they flown 1000 planes that day.

When Dubya took us into Iraq, I thought that he was developing a backbone and some moral courage. But, although he has done better than his daddy, it seems that he suffers from the same malady - taskus interruptus. In other words, like his daddy, he can't or won't finish the job he started.

You have to know that the terrorists are now adjusting their tactics to take advantage of this weakness. Future attacks will be meant, to not only kill as many Americans as possible, but to trick Dubya into taking away even more of our Constitutionally guaranteed rights.

Tune in next week for the next excruciating episode of "Dubya's War on Terrorism and the American People" --- "(ANTI)Patriot III - The Administration Strikes Back".

 

17 posted on 11/03/2003 8:26:44 AM PST by Action-America (Best President: Reagan * Worst President: Klinton * Worst GOP President: Dubya)
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To: evad
Kind of like burn the village in order to save it?

No, declare victory and leave. If they threaten again, bomb again. And don't rebuild - no money - you created the problem, you fix it.
18 posted on 11/03/2003 8:31:07 AM PST by satan
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To: evad
Kind of like burn the village in order to save it?

No, declare victory and leave. If they threaten again, bomb again. And don't rebuild - no money - you created the problem, you fix it.
19 posted on 11/03/2003 8:31:22 AM PST by satan
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To: Alter Kaker
It worked so well for the Athenians at Melos, no?

Not sure how that applies?

In Iraq you have an enemy that hides amongst the suburbs a la guerilla style warfare. He hides, strikes and goes back into hiding. The city dwellings are his friend and refuge.

What I am suggesting is that we round up those worth saving and incarcerate them until we demolish the terrorists hideout(s). We then rebuild or relocate as necessary. This would not apply to too many sites in Iraq, just the hot spots in the triangle area.

Now, does that compare with the Athenians at Melos? I dunno...you decide.

20 posted on 11/03/2003 8:49:32 AM PST by evad (Vote early and vote often)
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