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Originally posted by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub:

FYI : O'Reilly said FOX was 1st to realease the data Gore won.
Ask him why he said that, not me.
Those are the facts as reported by him!

O'Reilly never said that FOX News was the first to call Florida for Gore in the 2000 election. Find a transcript of any of his shows after the November 7/8 election night and you won't find him making that claim. By the way, you do not release VNS 'data' that Gore has 'won', you make a 'CALL' that Gore has one based on the final decision made by the network 'decision desk'. The decision desk uses the VNS data, and other data they have available to make a call. In the Florida 2000 election each of the associated networks (NBC/MSNBC, CBS/CNN, FOX, ABC, AP, VNS) made their mistakes independently of one another based on calls by the above six listed decision desks, even though they shared common VNS data. The reason that they made calls for Gore at different times was due to their 'feel' for how the VNS data matched up with hard AP data, early hard precienct numbers, and other non-common data sources available each network.

What you will find is that O'Reilly said that FOX News was the first to call Florida for Bush at 2:16:00am that morning. You will find your memory is not the final authority as to what occured that night. The written and video record is far superior. By the way, when you report 'facts' without a source, then they are assumed to be yours. If you wish to cite Bill O'Reilly, then hone in on the broadcast date in question, don't attribute your 'facts' to him in a subsequent post. O'Reilly never said what you attribute to him.

Again, it was NBC/MSNBC that first 'pulled the trigger' for Gore in Florida at 7:49:40pm, followed by CBS/CNN at 7:50:11pm, next VNS (Voter News Service) at 7:52:00pm immediately followed by FOX at 7:52:01pm, the AP at 7:53:00pm, and finally ABC making the last call at 8:02:00pm. No source you can cite will contradict this data, ever.

Source: ON-AIR NETWORK AND VNS CALLS, PRESIDENTIAL RACE, NOV. 7/8, 2000

Source: At Any Cost: How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election, by Bill Sammon. Regnery Publishing, Inc. Washington, D.C., 2001

Write to o'Reilly's staff at FOX News and see if you can get them to confirm your 'facts' that you attribute to him. I'll bet you find they can't because he didn't...

dvwjr

It has been a hard day.Mistakes are made.

Thanks for the data.
One thing we do know for ceratin is that all the networks released the data
BEFORE the 2nd time zone in FL finished voting.
If I recall that is a heavy GOP area.
ALL the networks also influenced voter turnout inthe rest of the US by not waiting until ALL polls were closed nationwide.
That also had an effect on the lame "popular vote" whine we hear from the dims to this day.

Here is an account, 1st hand, from a FReepers husband regarding the media.
As you recall FOX does have journalists in Iraq.
BUT like the other alphabet networks they refuse to cover ALL the facts.

To: All

Thank you all for the welcome home, I was two hours from getting on the plane when i received a call about our aircraft being shot down, please pray for the families of all the brave americans who lost their lives. I am glad to be home and also anxious in a way to get back and finish what we are doing there, it is a good cause and we must prevail. We will continue to send soldiers home,our unit alone will send 35 home this month and almost 40 in dec. Pay no attention to the media, they have been no where around when good things happen. They cower in hotels until an american gets killed and then scurry out into the light like cockroaches. Screw Them!!!

1SG Mike Milam, Co F 106th Avn 237 posted on 11/03/2003 9:27 PM PST by mystery-ak (Mike's back)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1013484/posts?page=237#237