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Detailing What The Sniper Had Left Behind [Four-Paged Letter Lay Un-Opened for 12 Hours]
The Baltimore Sun ^ | November 1, 2003 | Stephen Kiehl

Posted on 11/01/2003 4:04:14 AM PST by johnny7

Cryptic notes and calls described; Muhammad possibly caught on video.

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - Jurors heard firsthand accounts yesterday of the cryptic dialogue between the serial snipers and investigators - rambling phone conversations and letters in which the killers threatened children and demanded $10 million as part of an extortion plot.

(Excerpt) Read more at sunspot.net ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chiefmoose; dcsnipers; johnallenmuhammad; muhammadtrial
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1 posted on 11/01/2003 4:04:15 AM PST by johnny7
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To: johnny7
This is one case that should be a slam dunk for the prosecution.

On a side note, why is this excerpted?
2 posted on 11/01/2003 4:38:28 AM PST by 11B3 (Use the Gitmo prisoners for bayonnet course target dummies.)
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The Baltimore Sun is one of the newspapers on the list of publications affiliated with the LA Slimes and/or the Washington Compost. FR is proscribed from reproducing full articles in accordance with the copyright suit settlement arrived at a year or so ago.

Leni

3 posted on 11/01/2003 4:48:35 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: johnny7
Two blocks away from the Ponderosa is a Big Lots store, where authorities found on sale Ziploc bags, pink paper and adhesive stars identical to the ones found in the woods. Also, a surveillance tape in the store caught a picture of someone who looks like Muhammad entering the store at 4 p.m. on Oct. 19 - just four hours before the Ponderosa shooting.

And yet, for how many days after this, was Chief Moose still telling the public to be on the lookout for a right-wing white man in a white van?

4 posted on 11/01/2003 4:52:47 AM PST by Prince Charles
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To: johnny7

The note.

5 posted on 11/01/2003 4:52:50 AM PST by csvset
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I live in the D.C. area - the most disturbing thing to come out of this trial thus far is all the witness reports of a dark caprice at the shooting scenes. We spent the better part of a month being scared for our lives everytime we saw a white van or box truck. I'd love to see some sort of investigation into why all these witness reports of Muhammed's car were ignored.
6 posted on 11/01/2003 5:19:11 AM PST by GO65
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To: GO65
Most of the people who live in the NOVA and Maryland area knows how badly Moose botched this case. The sad part is he is profiting from this.
7 posted on 11/01/2003 5:40:02 AM PST by since1868
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To: GO65
... why all these witness reports of Muhammed's car were ignored.

It sadly didn't fit Chief Mooses' profile. It just had to be a white gun owner with hunter-like instincts. Probably a Republican who worked in the private sector.

8 posted on 11/01/2003 5:45:38 AM PST by johnny7
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A white van with ladder rack driving white man with loaves of white bread stuffed in the back. A white painter van full of white paint, in white coveralls and white hat who eats mayonnaise and white cheese on white bread for lunch. Who carries a white gun with white bullets and writes on white paper.

That is the man Moose was looking for.

As crazy as Micheal "bleach haid" Jackson is, Charles Mooose is crazier.

9 posted on 11/01/2003 5:52:11 AM PST by bvw
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Odd how former Chief Moose has yet to be called on the mishandling of the case. Where is the outrage over the racial profiling?
10 posted on 11/01/2003 6:02:16 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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It sadly didn't fit Chief Mooses' profile. It just had to be a white gun owner with hunter-like instincts. Probably a Republican who worked in the private sector.

Don't worry. The media have this covered. It's all the rifle's fault. Heck, the rifle probably even drove itself to the crime sites. It has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with freelance Islamic terrorists. We have nothing to fear from terrorist wannabes doing things like, I don't know, more sniper attacks, shootings at airports, setting fires and such. It is all because of the easy availability of guns, or the easy availability of matches, or due to someone's "alienation" from racistsexistimperialisthomophobicenvironment-destroyingAmerica. /sarcasm

11 posted on 11/01/2003 6:03:07 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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is moose a racist? (seriously)
12 posted on 11/01/2003 6:09:51 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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I think the record is clear. IMO he is a racist, by that meaning racial prejudices and latent hatred of white men ruined his operational view of this crime.
13 posted on 11/01/2003 6:29:49 AM PST by bvw
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Two days after that letter was found, a Baltimore FBI agent would receive a phone call demanding that police announce they have "caught the sniper like a duck in a noose"

There's been some talk in the papers that the phrase was about an old Cherokee story about a rabbit trying to catch a duck with a noose, and the duck gets the better of the rabbit

I don't think Mohammod was into Cherokee stories.

John Mohammod was in the Nation of Islam 5-Percenter rap culture. In one popular rap song we have:

Duck duck goose tie him in a noose

Whats the use of havin your troops if you dont put them to use?


14 posted on 11/01/2003 6:40:42 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === (Finally employed again! Whoopie))
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To: GO65
I'd love to see some sort of investigation into why all these witness reports of Muhammed's car were ignored.

Chief Moose had experience in corrections. He could not have failed to have been familiar with the Prison Black Muslim culture, specificly the Five Percenters. From the first instant that he saw the letter, with Five Percent phrases like "Call me God" and "Word is Bond", he KNEW he was dealing with a Black Muslim.

Chief Moose simply did not want a Black Muslim to be caught as the sniper

15 posted on 11/01/2003 6:45:26 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === (Finally employed again! Whoopie))
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And yet, for how many days after this, was Chief Moose still telling the public to be on the lookout for a right-wing white man in a white van?

To be fair, there was never a word about the suspects from Moose at all; it was all simply about white vans.

The "white male" stuff all came from assorted talking heads and consultants on the various news channels who weren't connected to the case.

16 posted on 11/01/2003 8:23:51 AM PST by John H K
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To: SauronOfMordor
Despite the sort of gloat-fest FR has been on since the case, I don't recall anyone claiming during the case that the perps were black; everyone thought they were Arabs and during the case the "posted every 5 minutes by morons who failed to search to see if it was posted already World Net Daily article" was about how people had seen HISPANICS in a white truck but they were covering it up.
17 posted on 11/01/2003 8:28:00 AM PST by John H K
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To: bvw
You left out his white hair, white beard, white socks, and white sneakers. Sheesh. Don't forget the white gloves and the white-wash while you're at it.

Moose and the media tried to make this an 'angry white man/racist thing', but the victim profile was too diverse for that to fly.

A white van in the DC area is about as rare as a limo at the Oscars.

18 posted on 11/01/2003 9:15:42 AM PST by Smokin' Joe
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To: John H K
The first witness said they were black guys in a dark car and they were ignored by the police:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31764

I think the two people who made the most astounding predictions were WND's Joe Farah, who said that it was probably "some guy named Mohammed", and serial killer David Berkowitz, who speculated it was "two guys living out of their car who hate cops".

19 posted on 11/01/2003 9:21:50 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: John H K
This story implies differently: Police union probes Moose
20 posted on 11/01/2003 10:02:14 AM PST by Prince Charles
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