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Lutherans in Chandler (AZ) offer church to Muslims
AZ Republic ^ | Edythe Jensen

Posted on 10/31/2003 10:31:18 AM PST by hsmomx3

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:21:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

CHANDLER - Holy Trinity Lutheran Church quietly has shared its sanctuary with Muslims for more than a year. Saturday it will be the site of a Ramadan dinner to raise money for construction of a mosque.

"We are thankful for them," Muslim Arif Kazmi said of the Lutherans. "They are very nice people; we are knowing more about each other."


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az; christians; lutherans; muslims
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1 posted on 10/31/2003 10:31:19 AM PST by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3
That's all really nice and all.

But what I want to know is, has this group of muslims denounced terrorism? Do they denounce the Oldest Terrorist, Yasser Arafat?

Would they accept the offer of the use of a Jewish building?

If so, then, welcome to America.

2 posted on 10/31/2003 10:37:40 AM PST by narby
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To: hsmomx3
Holy Trinity is an ELCA Lutheran church, so don't be surprised if they rent the building out to the local GLAAD contingent when the Muslims aren't busy with it.

(ELCA: Egregiously Liberal Christian Apostates)

3 posted on 10/31/2003 10:40:35 AM PST by niteowl77 (If you haven't prayed for our troops, please start; if you stopped, then do some catching up.)
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To: hsmomx3
"We are thankful for them," Muslim Arif Kazmi said of the Lutherans. "We will kill them last."
4 posted on 10/31/2003 10:44:15 AM PST by Kenton
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To: hsmomx3
"We questioned what does it mean for us? What will people think of it?" he said. "We decided that hospitality is an important thing to promote. We try to foster a feeling that this is community space, God's space."

Did they ever ask what God would want. Hospitality is nice, but I can't see turning a place that is dedicated to God over to a religion that denies His Son.

5 posted on 10/31/2003 10:45:03 AM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Kenton
I think these Lutherans know that if they just submit to islam, they reduce their chances of being killed at all.
6 posted on 10/31/2003 10:45:19 AM PST by FITZ
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To: edskid
(ELCA: Egregiously Liberal Christian Apostates)

Thanks, I've been trying to find a suitable acronym for some time. ;-D

Seems that the LCMS is attempting to "stay on track" for the time being.

7 posted on 10/31/2003 10:46:24 AM PST by GingisK
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To: hsmomx3
Muslims are nothing if not grateful
8 posted on 10/31/2003 10:55:55 AM PST by aynrandfreak
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To: GingisK
The MO Synod will do fine as long as they demand accountability from their leadership. The ELCA had deferred to the perfumed princes in the Twin Cities for so long that they didn't realize it was out of control until it was too late. Local pastors were unwilling to blow the whistle, and thus the sheep have "done got sheared."
9 posted on 10/31/2003 11:05:43 AM PST by niteowl77 (If you haven't prayed for our troops, please start; if you stopped, then do some catching up.)
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To: All
Additional note: some of the hate literature from "official" ELCA peace and love organizations involved in the Middle East make Yasser Arafat sound moderate. That they suck up to Islam is not surprising; that they still have congregations is surprising.
10 posted on 10/31/2003 11:10:49 AM PST by niteowl77 (If you haven't prayed for our troops, please start; if you stopped, then do some catching up.)
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To: FITZ
Either that, or the Lutherans just found out that their gift building was built over a hazardous waste dump.

Hey, it took me more than half a century to become so cynical. And being a FReeper provided me with a boost that best could be described as a quantum leap.

Thanks to all... 8~)

11 posted on 10/31/2003 11:18:21 AM PST by tracer
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To: hsmomx3
This wasn't a barf alert?
12 posted on 10/31/2003 11:31:36 AM PST by Digger
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To: DannyTN
"We decided that hospitality is...important..."

That's what the local Holiday Inn is for. Letting these heathens in to worship their false god defiles this church. Can you imagine them allowing Christians to share space in their new mosque?
13 posted on 10/31/2003 11:34:02 AM PST by beelzepug ("As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!!!")
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To: hsmomx3
Maybe they've been smoking Jimson weed.
14 posted on 10/31/2003 11:34:06 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: hsmomx3
I suppose if you feed the alligator, he is going to wait until last to eat you?
15 posted on 10/31/2003 11:45:07 AM PST by Gritty
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To: narby
"Do they denounce the Oldest Terrorist, Yasser Arafat?"

No, that would be the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) himself.
16 posted on 10/31/2003 11:49:18 AM PST by fishtank
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To: beelzepug
If it's an ELCA church, the building was defiled a long time ago.

Ichabod!
17 posted on 10/31/2003 11:50:28 AM PST by fishtank
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To: hsmomx3
So you make God share space with Allah, sad...
18 posted on 10/31/2003 11:52:01 AM PST by N3WBI3
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To: edskid
The MO Synod will do fine as long as they demand accountability from their leadership. The ELCA had deferred to the perfumed princes in the Twin Cities for so long that they didn't realize it was out of control until it was too late. Local pastors were unwilling to blow the whistle, and thus the sheep have "done got sheared."

There are whole congregations of ELCA breaking away. Some of my family is involved in such an undertaking. There's another synod forming. One name is Word Alone but there are other names, too. I don't really understand it all.

There are complications such as property and pastors' pensions.

Me? I saw the light and got out of ELCA and went to Mo. Synod 12 years ago.

19 posted on 10/31/2003 11:56:26 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: N3WBI3
So you make God share space with Allah

Both Christians and Muslims worship the same God.

From the Catholic Church Catechism:

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

20 posted on 10/31/2003 12:02:12 PM PST by george wythe
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