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The Relationships Between Republicans And Conservatives (Cathryn Crawford)
Washington Dispatch ^ | October 31, 2003 | Cathryn Crawford

Posted on 10/31/2003 8:00:17 AM PST by Scenic Sounds

Does a Republican equal a conservative? There is an entire spectrum of beliefs embodied within those elected officials that have an (R) after their name, and most of us assume that if someone is a Republican, they are conservative. However, political parties die when they are stagnant, and so there is constant change.

To answer the conservativism question, first we have to know what the basic beliefs of conservatives really are.

Historically, their most common belief – the one issue that typically unites them – is a belief in a limited federal government. Conservatives in American tend to believe that power is best left to state and local governments – the governments that are closest to the people. They believe that these smaller governments know better what their own communities need than the more distant federal government.

Conservatives also believe that the government should have a limited fiscal policy, and that the economy runs better with as little government interference as possible. We believe that most government regulations on economic issues serve to stunt growth, and that the capitalist system works best when it is allowed to work as freely as is possible.

Conservatives believe in the rights of the individuals over the rights of the government. They also deeply believe in the idea of personal responsibility. They believe that with individual rights comes individual responsibility. With a limited government comes a limited amount of assistance for its citizens, and conservatives embrace this, because it encourages individuality and freedom from dependence.

Conservatives believe in a strong national defense, and they tend to believe that our borders should be tightly controlled. They support the military and tend to believe that our military is not well served when it is spread all over the world on peacekeeping missions.

These make up the core of conservative values. While there is room for argument within any of these, they are the foundational tenets.

Now, let’s get back to our original question. Does a Republican equal a conservative? There isn’t a simple answer, but the most obvious one is no. There is no Republican that can say that he has held to these values without fail. The problem occurs when the leaders within the Party stop making conservative values their goal.

When the foundation of a belief system is taken away, the entire system wobbles. When one tenet is taken away, the rest threaten to crumble. If Republicans cease to believe in the idea of a limited central government, it becomes easier to justify more regulation and restriction on our market system. When our troops become less of a defense force and more of a peacekeeping force, it becomes easier to justify spreading them out from country to country, which tires and stresses our military. When personal responsibility stops – anything can happen. If no one is to blame, then no one must fear consequences of what they do.

Perhaps the question really is – Should a Republican equal a conservative? For those of us that believe in the GOP, that answer is a resounding yes – but this question will be answered by the people, over a period of decades, who will give their money and their votes to the Republican Party. As the GOP moves closer to the center, there will be a day when conservatives must decide whether the Republican Party is still the party that represents them best; and if they conclude that it is not, they will have to find an alternative.

Cathryn Crawford is a student at the University of Texas.


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To: Consort
Who defines the "center" and does it shift from time to time?

Good question. Are you wanting to tell me? I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on it.

101 posted on 10/31/2003 9:52:43 AM PST by Cathryn Crawford (Algunos misterios son tan profundos y maravillosos que deben ser explorados para ser entendido.)
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To: jmc813
There are pro-choicers on FR. :-(

Not that many once you scrape away the trolls.
The few that remain (like me) thinks it's none of the Feds d@mn business.

102 posted on 10/31/2003 9:55:58 AM PST by dread78645 (Hating Libertarians doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: jmc813; Scenic Sounds
I agree Look at some threads on the Republicans' proposed senior benefit. When someone says that thy are glad the RATS are obstructing it, albeit for the wrong reasons, they get jumped on like they're the anti-Christ.

It's all about that tribal mentality, Jeff.

103 posted on 10/31/2003 9:57:05 AM PST by Cathryn Crawford (Algunos misterios son tan profundos y maravillosos que deben ser explorados para ser entendido.)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Excellent essay..but, m'dear..riddle me this...in NYC..next week we have the city council elections...on Staten Island, the most conservative, and Republican of the 5 boros..a Democrat NYC council is running for re-election..he supported Bloomber's huge 20% increase in real -estate taxes last year, which especially hits hard on Staten Island..lots of one family homes.....he's opposed by an attractive GOP candidate, making her first run, who's opposed to the property tax increase, and is making it the keystone of her campaign...oh yeah, one more thing I forgot to add..."The incumbent, pro-tax increase Dem, is also running on the CONSERVATIVE party line.."...go figure...
104 posted on 10/31/2003 9:57:10 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Scenic Sounds
"However, political parties die when they are stagnant, and so there is constant change."

Actually the opposite is true. People that hold to this view also believe the Constitution is a living document and that Christianity must change with the times.

As far as looking for an alternative to Republicans, many of us already are. And if we don't come up with an answer America will die a socialist, totalitarian, death.

105 posted on 10/31/2003 10:00:53 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: dread78645
The few that remain (like me) thinks it's none of the Feds d@mn business.

I agree with you there. I think Roe v. Wade should be overturned and the states should decide their own abortion policies.

106 posted on 10/31/2003 10:03:53 AM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: robertpaulsen
That's why a "classic liberal in the mold of John Locke" like me cannot support the Drug War, yet a "Tory" like you can.

There ya go, Rob!

107 posted on 10/31/2003 10:06:55 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Cathryn Crawford
I'm wondering if there is a baseline conservativism that Republicans must have. Are certian beliefs essential?

No. I cite as an example mayor Bloominidiot of New York who has an 'R' after his name.

108 posted on 10/31/2003 10:08:02 AM PST by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
"The center" seems to be a term of convenience, a nebulous quasi-idiological no-man's/everyman's land.
109 posted on 10/31/2003 10:10:15 AM PST by Consort
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To: Consort
"The center" seems to be a term of convenience, a nebulous quasi-idiological no-man's/everyman's land.

So you don't think it's appropriate to use that term?

110 posted on 10/31/2003 10:11:05 AM PST by Cathryn Crawford (Algunos misterios son tan profundos y maravillosos que deben ser explorados para ser entendido.)
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To: rdb3
Shall I help you pack? I'd be more than happy to see you go.

No, I've got my timetable in place. You'll be welcome to visit my compound any time.

111 posted on 10/31/2003 10:12:04 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Cathryn Crawford
I don't use it. It's a noise word.
112 posted on 10/31/2003 10:13:04 AM PST by Consort
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To: Fred Mertz; rdb3
No, I've got my timetable in place. You'll be welcome to visit my compound any time

Send me a post card when you are all settled, Fred.

113 posted on 10/31/2003 10:15:12 AM PST by Dane
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To: Scenic Sounds
If the President had vetoed the bill prohibiting human cloning on the grounds that it is not within the federal government's enumerated powers, would that have been a move to the right or to the left? ;-)

I don't know if that would be right or left.
But he would be right.

114 posted on 10/31/2003 10:15:52 AM PST by carenot
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To: jmc813
I agree with you there. I think Roe v. Wade should be overturned and the states should decide their own abortion policies.

A couple of year ago, a conservative writer (Geo. Will?) opined that it (reversing Wade v. Roe) will never happen because anybody suggesting it would be hung and quartered as a bomb-thrower

--throwing a fire-bomb into the 50 statehouses.

115 posted on 10/31/2003 10:17:34 AM PST by dread78645 (Hating Libertarians doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: Dane
Could you take a look at #68 Dane, and tell us if you have basic problems with the principles outlined?

I did TP, but you are not going to win votes and hearts with having a micro machination issue fetish.

Typical dane-bull . -- You can't answer the question because you have basic problems with the constitutional principles outlined.
Your "fetish" crap is just that, -- nothing but BS.

And JMO, but when you(TP) and your Libertarian/Constitutional Party/Brigadier issue fetishists go on and on over micro machinations, you lose interest. And it really doesn't help your cause either when arguements about how the majority of voters feels about an issue is met with either more insults or more spam.

Again, typical.. I'd given you no arguments, insults or spam today, just an honest question.

Look conservatism works, Reagan showed that, GW is showing that now(GW's overall favorabilty numbers are better than Reagan's at the same point of Reagan's first term). JMO, but like I said to another psoter on this thread, get a clue.

Your response gives us all the clue we need to your agenda here dane-boy. Get lost.

117 posted on 10/31/2003 10:20:54 AM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
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To: jmc813
I agree with you there. I think Roe v. Wade should be overturned and the states should decide their own abortion policies.

There are some conservatives who would not be willing to trade any of their personal sovereignty to permit government at any level to ban abortions.

And then there are some conservatives who are only willing to trade personal sovereignty on the abortion issue to allow a local government (usually a state) to ban abortions.

And then there are some conservatives who believe that the issue of life is so important that the federal government should ban abortions so as to ensure that they are banned nationwide.

I wonder if there are conservatives who feel so strongly about the issue of life and abortion that they would be willing to trade a little national sovereignty in exchange for worldwide ban on abortion.

118 posted on 10/31/2003 10:23:59 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Me caigo a mis rodillas y hablo a las estrellas de plata. "¿Qué misterios usted está encubriendo?")
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To: Scenic Sounds
And then there are some conservatives who believe that the issue of life is so important that the federal government should ban abortions so as to ensure that they are banned nationwide.

I call that the "drug warrior mentality".

119 posted on 10/31/2003 10:25:46 AM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: jmc813
I call that the "drug warrior mentality".

They are one-issue Republicans.

120 posted on 10/31/2003 10:27:17 AM PST by Cathryn Crawford (Algunos misterios son tan profundos y maravillosos que deben ser explorados para ser entendido.)
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