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HISTORIANS DENY THE PAST (Venona files prove McCarthy, Nixon right about Soviet spies)
NY POST ^ | October 26, 2003 | ERIC FETTEMANN

Posted on 10/31/2003 3:03:28 AM PST by Liz

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:17:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

In 1992, Russia's first post-Communist leader, Boris Yeltsin, made a historic decision to open the nation's archives to Western scholars and historians. Yeltsin was anxious to expose the misdeeds of past Soviet leaders, and his decision opened the floodgates on evidence that proved profoundly discomfiting to apologists for the Communist system.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: haynes; klehr; mcarthy; mccarthy; venona
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1 posted on 10/31/2003 3:03:29 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
More evidence supporting Mona Charen's excellent book Useful Idiots.
2 posted on 10/31/2003 3:06:15 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: nopardons; I_Love_My_Husband
FYI
3 posted on 10/31/2003 3:09:51 AM PST by MEG33
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
FYI
4 posted on 10/31/2003 3:11:06 AM PST by MEG33
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To: Liz
And 3000, or 30 nillion dead on Anerican soil will not deter the pigs. Puke
5 posted on 10/31/2003 3:12:21 AM PST by Waco
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To: Liz
That is no surprise. Why would liberal sleazes ever be willing to admit they were wrong? This is part of what qualifies a person to be a liberal sleaze. It is kind of like claiming a fart in church. The smell is still there and nobody will claim it.
6 posted on 10/31/2003 3:13:12 AM PST by U S Army EOD (Nuke the gay,black, feminist, whales for Jesus)
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To: Liz
not all historians have approached the material with an open mind.

I'm shocked! Truly shocked.

The opponents of real academic freedom, especially in history, have been trying to recreate reality for so many years, they certainly will not sit by and watch all their work crumble without at least a wimper.

"You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free."
7 posted on 10/31/2003 3:29:15 AM PST by aardvark1
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To: Liz; AnnaZ
bump
8 posted on 10/31/2003 3:41:22 AM PST by The_Eaglet
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To: Peach
Mona Charen will be on C-SPAN's Washington Journal for an hour, Live, at 0900am Eastern.

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/fullschedule.csp

Right after some Talk Show Host by the name of Ed Schultz.

9 posted on 10/31/2003 4:01:02 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
Thanks for the heads up; she's terrific and I loved her book Useful Idiots. A must read for all.
10 posted on 10/31/2003 4:04:31 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Liz
Half the Venona spies have not been IDed. I'd love to know the rest of the scum.
11 posted on 10/31/2003 4:46:46 AM PST by Leisler
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To: Peach
>>More evidence supporting Mona Charen's excellent book Useful Idiots.

Not to mention Ann Coulter's Treason.

12 posted on 10/31/2003 4:52:03 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: FreedomPoster; basil; Gracey; DrewsDad; TheSarce
PING
13 posted on 10/31/2003 4:58:07 AM PST by jobshopper
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To: FreedomPoster; Peach
Actually, this book (and the authors' other works) are infinitely more important in the long run than either Charon's or Ann Coulter's works. Theirs are popular works which are not (despite Ann's footnotes) particularly carefully argued or adequately sourced for their main assertions. Ann is great, and she's usually right, but she does play a little fast and loose with the record.

These guys are academic historians who have examined the primary source documents, and have laid out their findings carefully. Over time, their work will have great impact on the rising generation of scholars now undergraduates or in the early stages of grad school, which is probably a little less left wing than the current faculty anyway. In 20 years, it will be as hard to find someone arguing the Rosenbergs were innocent, or that the Communists weren't soviet dupes and spies, as it is now to find a supporter of the Dunning (exceptionally hostile) view of Reconstruction, or someone who doesn't accept (at least in part) Fritz Fischer's Germany's Aims in the First World War.

14 posted on 10/31/2003 5:31:44 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: CatoRenasci
I pray you are correct
15 posted on 10/31/2003 6:18:55 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: jobshopper
The Communist Party is alive and well in this country actively organizing protests(ANSWER) and blasting our President and his cabinet in media attacks(moveon.org).
16 posted on 10/31/2003 6:40:57 AM PST by DrewsDad
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To: DrewsDad
Absolutely they are behind ANSWER and Moveon.Beware of the word Progressive,too.It usually means socialism or communism disguised.
17 posted on 10/31/2003 7:00:36 AM PST by MEG33
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To: CatoRenasci
Agreed, to a point. Both are important in the long run. We'd never get the popular impact of the information in this book, without Ann and Mona's efforts at putting that information in a format that will reach a mass audience. With that popular impact, we reduce the chances of the history being effectively re-written via Big Lie techniques, and this book being ignored/marginalized.
18 posted on 10/31/2003 7:01:29 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: FreedomPoster
Your point is fair enough, and well-taken: we need the eyes of the general educated citizen on the academy. My point, however, was more that popularizers like Ann and Mona will never be taken seriously by scholars, and the lasting impact on future scholarship can only come from scholarly exposes such as these by Haynes and Klehr.
19 posted on 10/31/2003 7:11:32 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: U S Army EOD
I once tried to think like a liberal but I couldn't get my head that far up my posterior.
20 posted on 10/31/2003 7:17:00 AM PST by Liz
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