You're Too Late: They're Everywhere

The wit and wisdom of Adam Teiichi Yoshida ^ | Thursday, October 30, 2003 | Adam Teiichi Yoshida

[hotpotato]

This story has morphed into a story which omits that AQ was going to be setting fires in the summer.

And I would never say "definitely" about anything passed on from a journalist via what someone who may or may not have been connected with interrogation within military confounds might have said. Hardly seems to be the basis for rounding people up. I'd rather point at legislators who aren't doing their job and instead are being intimidated by environmentalists who "persuade" them to put property and lives in jeopardy over thinning trees.

[hotpotato]

confounds -> compounds (damn AQ!)

[tbird1]

I'm waiting for them to find that there were missing bolts on those transmission towers in Colorado. The news was that they went over in high winds.
tbird1

[Lazamataz]

This story has morphed into a story which omits that AQ was going to be setting fires in the summer.

The story hasn't morphed. Our little sideline discussion has, to an extent.

And I would never say "definitely"

I don't recall saying "Al-Qaeda definitely set these fires" in this thread. I do recall offering this as a possibility, however, and I still do.

And I would never say "definitely" about anything passed on from a journalist via what someone who may or may not have been connected with interrogation within military confounds might have said.

I cannot parse the remainder of this sentence. Will you please resubmit it in a more understandable format?

[hotpotato]

From the Washington Times (note, California was not mentioned)Wildfires and security sparks:

On June 25, the FBI's regional office in Denver sent a memorandum to state and local law enforcement agencies warning them of a plot to start forest fires in the western United States using timed incendiary devices. The FBI learned of the plot from a senior al Qaeda detainee, who told investigators he had developed a plan to set forest fires in Colorado, Montana, Utah and Wyoming.

and this:

"The detainee believed that significant damage to the U.S. economy would result and once it was realized that the fires were terrorist acts, U.S. citizens would put pressure on the U.S. government to change its policies," said the FBI memo, a copy of which was obtained by the Arizona Republic.

Poor guys. What's happened instead of getting the "credit for mass destruction" is that Gray Davis is getting a lot of the blame for not acting quickly as well as the environmentalists. Policies on Iraq are not going to change but it does look like we are seeing action from Washington finally in the form of getting forests cleared. And this is a one-time shot. Once the fuel is burned, it's burned for a long time.

I saw a guy hold up the diamond from his wife's wedding ring found in the rubble of their completely leveled home. Since they have a pretty good idea where these fires originated, seems an timed incendiary device would be found in the charred brush.

[hotpotato]

I don't recall saying "Al-Qaeda definitely set these fires"

Didn't say you did. I was referring to your quote quoting quotes:

Al-Qaeda operatives caught last summer definitively stated that starting fires in the west was in their plans.

[Lazamataz]

(note, California was not mentioned)

security sparks: On June 25, the FBI's regional office in Denver sent a memorandum to state and local law enforcement agencies warning them of a plot to start forest fires in the western United States using timed incendiary devices.

Luckily, California is not in the West, or your incredible nitpicking would fall flat.

The FBI learned of the plot from a senior al Qaeda detainee, who told investigators he had developed a plan to set forest fires in Colorado, Montana, Utah and Wyoming.

Plus, ya can count on those Al Qaeda to reveal EVERY detail of their plans, cuz they aren't really dedicated or anything. Why, they'd just roll over the very first time you asked them anything. "CALIFORNIA," they'd sputter, "IT WAS CALIFORNIA WE WERE TARGETING ALL ALONG... sob... sob...."

[Lazamataz]

Al-Qaeda operatives caught last summer definitively stated that starting fires in the west was in their plans.

Your citation neatly proved my point. Thanks.

[hotpotato]

According to the quote quoted by someone who read a quote, they also definitively listed states that excluded California. But that's ok, you just pick and choose the definitve parts and ad lib where it suits your theory.

Personally, I prefer more concrete evidence. Especially in light of the fact that fires happen annually out here.

btw, some smartass launched a flare a couple of streets above my house last night into a green belt area in between streets/homes. Was probably AQ since I didn't see him and not someone's smartass kid home alone getting bright ideas from watching all the carnage on tv. Fortunately, he/she didn't burn our neighborhood down. This time.

[Lazamataz]

According to the quote quoted by someone who read a quote, they also definitively listed states that excluded California. But that's ok, you just pick and choose the definitve parts and ad lib where it suits your theory.

I'm so glad you trust Al Qaeda's word. We know they don't lie. And they'd never change a target.

[Lazamataz]

btw, some smartass launched a flare a couple of streets above my house last night into a green belt area in between streets/homes. Was probably AQ since I didn't see him and not someone's smartass kid home alone getting bright ideas from watching all the carnage on tv. Fortunately, he/she didn't burn our neighborhood down. This time.

And this little ditty implies I definitely think it was Al Qaeda. I'm sorry, I won't let you put words in my mouth -- I don't know where your hands have been.

However, to rule it out and mock the premise is Mr. Magoo-like blindness on your part. I offer it as a possible hypothesis, and one to be carefully considered/investigated.

[Travis McGee]

We're going to find out, sooner or later,

if Abdul will pray, to a smoking crater.

[Lazamataz]

We're going to find out, sooner or later,
if Abdul will pray, to a smoking crater.

LOL! You make that ditty up?

[Pro-Bush]

Known supporters of terrorism, of Osama Bin Laden, of al-Qaeda, of Hamas, of Hezbollah, and of any other Islamist group need to be interned for the duration of the war.

I can relate to this guys way of thinking!

[hotpotato]

You're a very funny guy (or gal) :-)

[hotpotato]

Wow. I see now how you can think so strongly AQ was involved. I had no idea. I'll leave you alone now. I promise.

[Lazamataz]

You're a very funny guy (or gal) :-)

Curtsey.

[Lazamataz]

Wow. I see now how you can think so strongly AQ was involved. I had no idea.

Your reading-comprehension skills aren't quite up to snuff, are they?

[ladyinred]

He is right that they are very dangerous and they are among us. So many people however, are so concerned about the Patriot Act and the rights of those who would see us dead , that they are hampering the agencies of the government from doing much about it. Just listen to the rantings of the left, and some on the right about the detaining of suspected terrorists.

These complainers have already forgotten what happened in this country on Sept 11th, something we didn't think would happen. They will also be the first one's to complain that enough wasn't done if we are hit in a big way again. We are being hit all of the time, but we are not being told that is the act of terrorism when we are because of the reason's the author cites. The media pretends the snipers in the DC area were picking off citizens for unknown motives, so afraid of being racists. This is going to be the downfall of this nation, the PC leftists have blood on their hands.

[No Fool]

Why is this JUST being said? We have been discussing this in my house since the fires started. The first huge hit was at our financial center (literally and figuratively)...why not put the largest economy in the US, which was already in trouble, into a complete tailspin? It makes perfect sense.