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Conservatives aren't even willing to publicly question liberal positions on abortion, they aren't about to challenge them. How many times have you heard a liberal "leader" proclaim the belief that abortions be safe, legal and rare? Did you ever wonder why the necessity for rarity?

If the liberal position, that abortions do no harm to any living person, was believed by it's holder, why the need for rarity? If a fetus is simply a undifferentiated mass of cells, how is it different from a polyp, or cyst or tumor? In fact, with that frame of reference, an abortion is nothing more than an elective medical procedure. We don't wish for fewer, mole removals, fewer tooth extractions or even fewer face lifts.

The answer, of course, is that liberals know most folks believe that a fetus is a person, and if such a callous attitude as I describe above was uttered, the liberal extremity would be unmasked. But conservatives won't take to the fight, because it really isn't worth the battle, even incrementally.

But conservatives won't take to the fight, because it really isn't worth the battle, even incrementally.

Yes, conservatives have been led to believe that they lose elections (Dole,Lungren,McCollum in FL) because "pro-choice" people simply overwhelm them. The conservatives do not often philosophically make the case against abortion. Many feel that the issue is "lose-lose" for them.

Sadly, Joe's argument breaks down at the point where he quotes the term 'person'. The specious fiat SCOTUS of 1973 disenfranchised the alive unborn, then laid claim to the notion that unless the high court conveys personhood upon the preborn they cannot enjoy the protections of the Constitution. I've had that spittled out at me numerous times when discussing the fiat nature of the Roe and Doe decisions. ... an unborn child, though alive and sensing her environment, is not a 'person born in'. It's kind of like a court's 'finding of facts' ... the truth is what the court says it is, regardless of reality or morality.

But where do you see Hillary or Ted Kennedy calling for socialized medicine?

You don't. You only see them talking about the next baby step.

And if conservatives learned the same lesson, we would be farther ahead right now.