[Right Wing Professor]

I love your idea. It would work for them much better. Unfortunately, that was not the deal and not what the treaties call for and we cannot unilaterally change the terms and maintain our own integrity.

No treaty lasts in perpetuity. The world changes.

We can't keep the treaties, and still adhere to the constitution. How is an exclusive right to participate in a tribal election, based on race, consistent with the 14th amendment? How can we justify different laws for a white man and an Indian who live beside each other on a reservation?

[Arkinsaw]

No treaty lasts in perpetuity. The world changes.

We can't keep the treaties, and still adhere to the constitution. How is an exclusive right to participate in a tribal election, based on race, consistent with the 14th amendment? How can we justify different laws for a white man and an Indian who live beside each other on a reservation?

Treaties last until one side or the other breaks them or they are renegotiated. We have justified and rationalized breaking Indian treaties many times. Regardless of how it is justified and rationalized it is still dishonorable behavior no matter how convenient it is to us.

[Chad Fairbanks]

We can't keep the treaties, and still adhere to the constitution.

Well, thats not entirely true. Especially since the treaties are constitutionally-based.

[lockjaw02]

We can't keep the treaties, and still adhere to the constitution. How is an exclusive right to participate in a tribal election, based on race, consistent with the 14th amendment? How can we justify different laws for a white man and an Indian who live beside each other on a reservation?

Yep, "we" probably should have just exterminated them thar ungracious malcontents while we had the chance. Not abiding by the Constitution? Some nerve. Imagine them thinking they're free to make their own rules. Whatever gave em that dang fool idea? We are so much better than they.

/sarcasm

It has been determined by a U.S. Supreme Court decision (COUNTY OF ONEIDA, NY V. ONEIDA INDIAN NATION 0)J- NEW YORK STATE -83, U.S. 1065 (1985)) and other litigation involving the Oneida Indian Nation, New York State and Oneida and Madison Counties that between 1785 and 1846 New York State acquired virtually all of the Oneida Indian territory through fraudulent and deceitful practices.