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My apologies to (some of) the 'save Terri' posters here (a 'vanity' post)
Self ^ | 10/29/03 | Self

Posted on 10/28/2003 10:27:31 PM PST by Normally a Lurker

In some of my posts (maybe in many of my posts) here in recent days I have been rude to various other posters; most often though just when responding to posts that were insulting and rude to me. However, in reviewing various threads last night I realized that I might have at times been rude to someone who had not initiated that rudeness with me.

To those individuals I hereby apologize.

I do not wish to diminish my apology, but I would like to explain my actions. There are a very large number of posters here who (IMHO) are operating from an emotional basis, rather than a factual and logical basic, and who are very rude with anyone who disagrees with there positions.

When a relatively few objective / logical posters are positioned (by virtue of common opinions) among such a 'crowd,' it's often difficult to distinguish them. This is especially true when, in a short period of time, one has just dealt with 8-10 rude, illogical, emotional posters; and one then encounters another poster presenting the same opinions and asking the same questions, albeit, sans rudeness.

In any case, that is my excuse. But my apology (to those certain objective, logical posters to whom I've been rude) is sincere, and I'll try to do better in the future.

I would give individual apologies privately, but with the unusually large volume of posters in these threads, I'm afraid I'd overlook a few who deserve my apology. (Also, some of you I'm still unsure about.) As appropriate with some of you here, I hope you will be able to sense this though from my future exchanges with you.

Finally a warning to others: For so long as you continue to be rude to me, I will likely respond in kind. And, if you continue repeated the same illogical questions over and over, I will likely become increasingly 'testy' in my responses to you.


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To: No More Gore Anymore
Why do you keep posting on these threads then?

As usual, your comments/questions mistate the fcats. I have not "kept posting on these threads". This thread, re "apologies," is a partial exception. Some posts made here by others well after I posted that I was through with "your" 'save Terri' threads, I simply ignored. To some others, I made an acknowledgment-post in response thereto (e.g., I understand your views and appreciate the way you in which expressed them). Still some very few others essentially required that I say a little more (see actual posts above).

Again no posts have been made by me in any of "your" threads (i.e., re the 'save Terri' topic) since then. Your comments to the contrary is just one more example of you attitude towards facts - you ignore them.

Most of the rest of your post to me is even more absurd than the "why do you keep posting on these threads" question responded to above; ergo, I'm just going to ignore it.

When are you going to let this dead horse go. (See prior posts to you above re "dead horses".)

81 posted on 11/01/2003 6:39:40 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: Normally a Lurker
Your post #75 was made at 10:03 this AM where you are talking about living wills and right to die. This thread is a Terri thread, since you keep talking about Terri Schinlder here. There are no threads on this site which belong personaly to me. I have been pinged here by some other posters who thought I would be interested in the ongoing discussion here. This is a public forum.. your are the one who assigned me to the Save Terri crew.

Again you try in insult me , while claiming to be an upstanding guy.

You want to stop beating a dead horse? Then do it yourself.

I have a feeling your days here are numbered anyway. You can not going around insulting people and posting apologies forever. Someone is going to get wise to your Tom Foolery. First you want me to believe you are going to drop it and ignore me, then you post yet another insult. Let's see if your next post can be insult free, logical and clear as to your intent.

82 posted on 11/01/2003 7:09:47 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Whatever.

My only / final comment to you is that: for so long as you continue to feel compelled to beat this dead horse on this thread (that although I initiated the thread, for purposes other than discussing the various aspects of the 'save Terri' issue, you apparently believe to be one of 'your' save Terri threads), please feel free to continue.

83 posted on 11/01/2003 7:27:41 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: FreepinforTerri
We simply see things differently - not regarding me apparently, but regarding Terri's wishes.

However, I respectyou for you way of stating these differences, and hope we can just leave it at that.

Peace - to you and yours.

84 posted on 11/01/2003 7:32:36 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: Normally a Lurker
I'm aghast. What makes you think that Terri's wishes are to die? That's contrary to all evidence.
85 posted on 11/01/2003 8:51:16 PM PST by FreepinforTerri (I love Terri, Yes I do, I love Terri, how bout you?!?!)
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To: FreepinforTerri; All
I would like to remind you and all others who may read this thread that (as I stated in post #78 above) if you want to discuss this matter with me, please do so via "private reply" (Freepmail) rather than open posts in this forum.

The reasons for this request is explained in post #78 above.

86 posted on 11/01/2003 9:56:47 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: Normally a Lurker
Oh ,thanks for the permission to continue to post on threads which are discussing a topic that I am following very closely. How very generous of you. I didn't understand that when you start a thread here at freerepublic you get to be the moderator of that thread , and control the debate within , and choose who responds as well. I didn't understand that responding to new posts was considered "beating a dead horse" , yet the original poster had free reign to keep posting on the same topic over and over again wihtout such nasty lables associated with doing so.
87 posted on 11/02/2003 5:15:57 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: No More Gore Anymore
You're welcome.
88 posted on 11/02/2003 5:22:02 AM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: Normally a Lurker
That must be the real final comment , right.. or let me guess... just one more thing before you go..... Do you have any self control. Time will tell... tick tock NAL..... tick tock
89 posted on 11/02/2003 2:55:14 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Just when were you cloned from Don Morgan, or was it Mojo, . . . . or Navigator? Must be a combo plate of the three, with a sprinkle of Uncle Daddy for good measure.
90 posted on 11/02/2003 4:05:12 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: Normally a Lurker
See I knew you had no self control ....let me guess saveterri1, or oops I mean NAL.. You just can't stop beating that dead horse.... I am sorry I couldn't hear you because my bu11 Sh8 detector just went off.
91 posted on 11/02/2003 4:08:35 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Since you and a few other posters here and in other threads have commented on MY rights, I would like to say the following regarding these rights.

Posters here have, on more than one occasion, said in this and other threads, that the issue / principle here is "not your right to die." That phraseology is misleading, inflammatory, and insulting, albeit somewhat less so than references to murder, killing, starving, etc.

Simply stated, the issue is about ones right not to be artificially sustained in an unbearable and/or undignified condition for an extended period against ones wishes when the condition precludes reasonable chance of recovery to an acceptable condition.

Note that key words in that more proper definition of the issue are "artificial" and "ones wishes."

For further clarity, I've not said that anything should be done against ones wishes. Ergo, one should have the opposite of the above right. That being a right to be artificially sustained in an unbearable and/or undignified condition for an extended period if one wishes.

- - - - - - - - -

Lest you feel compelled to comment about me continuing to post on a matter about which I said I would no long post, and since you have a tendency to misinterpret many, many things: I'm compelled to point out that the above is a discussion of my rights and others rights in general. It is not a discussion of "Terri's" rights.

Further, you have inaccurately described the purpose of this thread repeatedly, a thread that I initiated to apologize to a few posters. You have repeatedly tried to turn it into a discussion of the 'save Terri' issue. I did not initiate it for that purpose and I've tried to rebuff your and others attempts to turn it into such a discussion, even before I decided to cease discussing the 'save Terri' issues in other threads at this site.

Also, as I've said above, I'm open to private discussion of the 'save Terri' issue and have issued an invitation to any and all to join such a discussion. You have elected to not take me up on that invitation, but rather you continued to try to goad me into discussing that mater here.

As to your implying that I have posted at this site using another screen name, as usual, you are simply wrong. I have never used another screen name at this site since registering here over five years ago. In fact, I've been very careful at other similar sites to use the NAL screen name, or even NAL_FR, or FR_NAL, so that posters here who go to such sites know who I am. Unlike many others here (possibly you included?) who use / have used other screen names, I've no interest in deceiving anyone in that game-playing way.

And, I'm aware that Jim Rob has the means to detect multiple user-ID posters, via IP address, etc. in most cases. Therefor, given your wild accusation (something that I have observed that you are prone to do on a very wide variety of subjects) in this regard, I'd welcome a review by Jim Rob and/or the moderators here of whether or not I've ever used another screen name here. Would you welcome such a review of your activities as well?

Finally, I'm very comfortable here with letting others judge by reviewing this entire thread just which one of us is lacking self control.

Possibly you should have quit beating this dead hose a very long time ago.

92 posted on 11/03/2003 4:43:02 AM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: No More Gore Anymore
BTW (since you seem to be unable to refrain from childish isults), regarding your "bu11 Sh8 detector" what you are apparently detecting is the constant outflow from your pie-hole.
93 posted on 11/03/2003 4:47:36 AM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Since you called the 'saveterri1' screen name to my attention (by accusing me of using it as a second screen name at this site, against this site's policies), I have reviewed the many posts made here in recent days by that poster.

While your unwarranted and inaccurate accusation (re dual screen name use) is insulting, I must say that I would be proud to have been the one to make most of those posts. In fact, it appears that 'saveterri1' has posted the greatest volume of factual information on that subject of any poster at this site, myself included. The problems and issues here might greatly subside if you and various other posters in those threads were to acquire even half the level of accurate knowledge of the subject as 'saveterri1' apparently has.

94 posted on 11/03/2003 5:10:09 AM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Additional info re the 'saveterri1' false accusation by you:

Lest you now begin to accuse me of working with and/or encouraging 'saveterri1', let me inform you in advance, I'd never even noticed that screen name before yesterday and even then not until after he/she had nearly finished with the relatively large number of posts he/she had made up to that point in time late yesterday.
95 posted on 11/03/2003 5:28:22 AM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Additional comment re the second screen name accusation:

I'm compelled (especially given your accusation) to note that since I suggested yesterday that you might be a clone of one of the various posters who used to stalk me here years ago as you have been recently, or possibly even be one of them using a new screen name, you have not denied this.

96 posted on 11/03/2003 5:43:26 AM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: Normally a Lurker
I am not going to read you long rants this morning, so I can not comment upon them. I can only guess these are long expalnations of how this is going to be your last post to me... for the fifth time now.

This is really my last post to you here. I won't repeat that to you five times, so you will have to get it this one and only time.

My focus has been renewed to help fight for Terri's constitutional rights and her right to life. I am glad to see some more of the media has been able to see the truth, that Terri is not dying, is not in a coma and is not brain dead, does not ahve a wih to die and never had a living will.

I have to go do some work today for Terri and for America.

Now, I realize you are the type of person who has to have the last word.. so go ahead and respond to me again that you really are going to stop posting to me. Although you and I both know it isn't really necessary, and you know I won't read it.. but you will think that you have achieved your goal. As they say go ahead and make your day!

97 posted on 11/03/2003 5:49:44 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: No More Gore Anymore
This is really my last post to you here.

Thank you very much. I'm glad to see that you've finally decided to cease your attempts to goad me into discussing the 'Terri' issue openly here at this site, against the site owneres wishes.

98 posted on 11/03/2003 6:00:53 AM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: Normally a Lurker
... it appears that 'saveterri1' has posted the greatest volume of factual information on that subject of any poster at this site, myself included.

You haven't posted any information on the subject, factual or otherwise, that I have seen. Just opinion. Uninformed opinion at that.

99 posted on 11/03/2003 6:50:51 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope." - Terri Schiavo)
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To: TigersEye
Objective readers here are more than welcome to be the judge of that. As you fail to qualify for that position, please do not waste your time by applying.
100 posted on 11/03/2003 7:25:55 AM PST by Normally a Lurker
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