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My apologies to (some of) the 'save Terri' posters here (a 'vanity' post)
Self ^ | 10/29/03 | Self

Posted on 10/28/2003 10:27:31 PM PST by Normally a Lurker

In some of my posts (maybe in many of my posts) here in recent days I have been rude to various other posters; most often though just when responding to posts that were insulting and rude to me. However, in reviewing various threads last night I realized that I might have at times been rude to someone who had not initiated that rudeness with me.

To those individuals I hereby apologize.

I do not wish to diminish my apology, but I would like to explain my actions. There are a very large number of posters here who (IMHO) are operating from an emotional basis, rather than a factual and logical basic, and who are very rude with anyone who disagrees with there positions.

When a relatively few objective / logical posters are positioned (by virtue of common opinions) among such a 'crowd,' it's often difficult to distinguish them. This is especially true when, in a short period of time, one has just dealt with 8-10 rude, illogical, emotional posters; and one then encounters another poster presenting the same opinions and asking the same questions, albeit, sans rudeness.

In any case, that is my excuse. But my apology (to those certain objective, logical posters to whom I've been rude) is sincere, and I'll try to do better in the future.

I would give individual apologies privately, but with the unusually large volume of posters in these threads, I'm afraid I'd overlook a few who deserve my apology. (Also, some of you I'm still unsure about.) As appropriate with some of you here, I hope you will be able to sense this though from my future exchanges with you.

Finally a warning to others: For so long as you continue to be rude to me, I will likely respond in kind. And, if you continue repeated the same illogical questions over and over, I will likely become increasingly 'testy' in my responses to you.


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To: TigersEye
As requested, you are hereby dismissed.

BTW, that's the first time someone ever asked me for it; I usually tire of their games first.

Also, the inference of your "post to me" comments is belied by (some) of your actual posts in this thread.

141 posted on 11/03/2003 10:32:15 AM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: Normally a Lurker
BTW . . . and besides, I need not tag-team assistance on the side issue here (thanks for the effort anyway, if that was your intent) . . . I've been attacked by a better bunch than this at various times past, here.

Not My intent...I've been here long enough to know you don't need anyones "atta boy".

142 posted on 11/03/2003 10:36:01 AM PST by KDD
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To: TigersEye
As you may have noticed, I've made not attempt to enforce it (as usual you continusously misdescribe the facts). I have requested that this thread be kept free of a discussion of the 'Terri' topic.

But with most people here, it's considered a simple common courtesy to stay on-topic in a thread.

As to enforcement, in some times past, Jim rod used to ban people who continually refused to stay on-topic in a thread. And, as a matter of fact, that is the definition of a "disrupter".

Duh!

143 posted on 11/03/2003 10:36:17 AM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: KDD
My apologies to you for misunderstanding your intent.
144 posted on 11/03/2003 10:37:58 AM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: KDD
That's not surprising. You appear to be someone with an agenda yourself. I'd rather be a zealot for life than a zealot for death.
145 posted on 11/03/2003 10:38:42 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope." - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Normally a Lurker
I just keep biting my tongue.

When I see you post what I am thinking I am a little ashamed of myself for standing outside the fire...

You must have that special double layer ACME fire suit on.

Gotta run...Later.

146 posted on 11/03/2003 10:44:01 AM PST by KDD
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To: TigersEye
It is so interesting to me that the zealots for death just don't understand our constitution. Again, the legislature, supported by the public to act as our paid representatives make the laws the judges are to uphold.

The government is for the people, not for the judges. We , by way of our elected representatives, make the rules and laws of this society, not the judges.

I feel sorry for any American who does not undersatnd their own true power over govenment. Some call people like us zealots. Some would have called us Whigs long ago, durring the birth of this nation and an emotional historical period . It is really too bad that there are some , even here , who do not embrace this God given, consitutioanly given right to life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I guess some people , even in this modern age, pine for a king to tell them what to do , and how to think. They don't get for the people, by the people thing at all. It is so , so Sad.

147 posted on 11/03/2003 10:55:49 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Very sad.
148 posted on 11/03/2003 10:57:29 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope." - Terri Schiavo)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Two little words that you do not seem to understand which are our Constitutional right.

Due Process...

Michael was denied his by the State.
149 posted on 11/03/2003 11:04:42 AM PST by KDD
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To: KDD
Huh? And how was Micahel denied his due process by the state?
150 posted on 11/03/2003 11:11:56 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: No More Gore Anymore
The USSC will explain it to you when it comes before them.

I don't have the time right now.

Already running late.
151 posted on 11/03/2003 11:16:58 AM PST by KDD
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To: All
Just checking 'tag line' (?)
152 posted on 11/03/2003 12:45:05 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
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To: KDD
Right. I don't think they are going to say that Michael's right to starve Terri superceed Terri's rights to life liberty and pursiut of happiness ,regardless of age or DISABILITY. If they take the case and thus rule that a gaurdian has absolute power over their ward, in regard to life and death, then God help us all. That will be an interesting precedent to set.
153 posted on 11/03/2003 12:45:06 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: All
Just testing tag line use again
154 posted on 11/03/2003 12:54:11 PM PST by Normally a Lurker (a partial explanation appears on my FR home page)
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To: Normally a Lurker
Still testing tag line
155 posted on 11/03/2003 12:56:31 PM PST by Normally a Lurker (partial explanation is on my FR home page)
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To: TigersEye
I love all of post #56, including the tagline. I've been so proud of your work for Terri and for life - your research, your reasoning, your debate and writing skills, your strength and integrity. You display great wisdom, you are the most excellent of FReepers, and I'm dang proud to be your Thirty.

One of my favorite quotes of yours is, "The important thing is to either win allies in the fight for life and sanity or scare its enemies into flight or inaction." You are living out this wisdom with fortitude. Thank you, dear fellow FReeper.

156 posted on 11/04/2003 2:42:14 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: Normally a Lurker
You apoligize by saying: "I have been rude to various other posters..."

Then take back the apology by saying immediately afterward: "...though just when responding to posts that were insulting and rude to me," thereby excusing your behavior.

You admit: "I realized that I might have at times been rude to someone who had not initiated that rudeness with me."

You then go on to list all the various justifications for your behavior, as though others are at fault for what you have chosen to do. As you say, "In any case, that is my excuse."

You then close with the admission that you are going to continue in the behavior for which you are supposedly apologizing, and doing so for all the same justifications and equivocations you have already listed - i.e., it is everyone else's fault that you are rude: "Finally a warning to others: For so long as you continue to be rude to me, I will likely respond in kind. And, if you continue repeated the same illogical questions over and over, I will likely become increasingly 'testy' in my responses to you."

What kind of apology is that?

If you are truly sorry for what you have done, take responsibility for it - without excuse or justification, repent of it wholeheartedly and sincerely, and change your ways.

157 posted on 11/04/2003 3:01:42 AM PST by .30Carbine (No one can "make" you do anything; you are responsible for your own choices.)
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To: .30Carbine
You have a FEW valid points, but you have clearly missed the subtlty - some FEW poster deserved an apology, a bery great many were CONSTANTLY insulting and rude to me (and to ANYONE else who expressed a difference of opinion), and could clearly be expected to continue with that approach.

Given the huge volume of posts, in a later review, I realized that I had initially confused some of the posters who hadn't been rude with those who deserved to have rudeness returned to them. Ergo, the dual nature of my apology.

I hope this explanation clarifiy the one that I initially attempted above.

In any case, as complex and confusing as my apology was, I want to assue you and others, again, that it was sincere - but, again, only for those FEW that deserved it.

158 posted on 11/04/2003 5:47:30 AM PST by Normally a Lurker (partial explanation is on my FR home page)
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To: Normally a Lurker
Gotta give credit where it's due - Takes a lot of guts to apologize... I can respect that :0)
159 posted on 11/04/2003 9:46:25 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (The Truth is to see The Gift)
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