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This thread will serve as a place for posting all new information and links regarding Terri's case, information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information and prayers. I will update the thread daily during the week and on Friday nights for the weekends for as long as we need to.

Thanks to "iowamomforfreedom" for helping collect all the threads. There are doubtless some missing. Please feel free to add. Future threads will have a link back to this one.

1 posted on 10/28/2003 10:00:44 PM PST by sweetliberty
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Great idea and thanks for all your hard work, sweetliberty and iowamomforfreedom! And everybody involved. It was very difficult finding all the relevant update threads when Terri was being dehydrated.

May the Lord Bless Terri!
52 posted on 10/29/2003 6:14:47 AM PST by Marie Antoinette (Caaaarefully poke the toothpick through the plastic...)
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Thank you so much for this - it's nice to have this info in one place. All I'm able to do is pray hard, write letters, and follow along. Your thread makes all 3 much easier.
65 posted on 10/29/2003 7:18:03 AM PST by firerosemom
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Wonderful work! Thank you so much for this resource.
69 posted on 10/29/2003 7:39:43 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: sweetliberty
Thank you for putting this together. Terri needs all of us to keep up the pressure. We cannot sit by and let Michael Schiavo and his attorney murder that poor vulnerable defenseless woman.
87 posted on 10/29/2003 9:42:10 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: sweetliberty
Today's Stories:

President Bush backs Jeb on Schiavo case

Michael Schiavo pleads case on CNN Terri's brother says husband's interview full of 'distortions'

127 posted on 10/29/2003 12:20:02 PM PST by JustPiper (RIP Freeper Lynne - God loves you! You are our angel now!)
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To: sweetliberty
Making a difference!  I haven't seen this one posted.

Pro-Life Group Seeks State Laws Like "Terri's Law" to Protect Others

128 posted on 10/29/2003 12:37:04 PM PST by windchime
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To: sweetliberty
Dem Senator jumping on bandwagon.  The Florida Legislature sent living will material to all districts last week following the passage of 'Terri's Law'.  Wonder if the bill Nelson is sponsoring uses the likes of Felos to 'educate'. 

Schiavo and living wills

 In court today, there's a move to appoint a guardian ad-litem for Terri Schiavo, under the new state law that kept her on artificial feeding. Meantime, her husband Michael will be in court to have the law thrown out. US Senator Bill Nelson is sponsoring a bill to spend 25-million dollars to educate people on living wills. The elderly, in particular, would be advised to put their wishes in writing before they're incapacitated.

132 posted on 10/29/2003 12:55:37 PM PST by windchime
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Hi all! I've lurked here for a while but never posted. If any of you freepers are interested, how about helping out a little over at this board when you can. http://forums.ibsys.com/viewmessages.cfm?sitekey=gws&Forum=79&Topic=9283
It's a national forum and it's clear most of these people don't have a clue about Terri.

213 posted on 10/29/2003 3:23:48 PM PST by A-plus
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An excerpt from aol news 10-29-03-----Florida courts have repeatedly affirmed Michael Schiavo's legal right to remove his wife's feeding tube. The state Supreme Court has twice refused to hear the case; the U.S. Supreme Court has also refused to hear it.---End quote

Maybe they will chage their minds, if a lot of us contact them.

Hon. Charles T. Wells Cheif Justice
Hon. Harry Lee Anstead
Hon. Barbara J. Pariente
Hon. R. Fred Lewis
Hon. Peggy A. Quince
Hon. Raoul G, Cantero, III
Hon. Kenneth B. Bell

supremecourt@flcourts.org

Supreme Court of Florida
500 So. Duvall Street
Talahasse, FL 32399
244 posted on 10/29/2003 6:00:49 PM PST by Ahnya
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To: sweetliberty; STARWISE
Starwise asked, "When did we become a right-to-die society?"

Here is a repost of my earlier message to you that disappeared when the thread it was on was pulled:

The Death Culture in Florida

Our society turned into a right-to-die society when technological advances made it possible to sustain the life, of the shell of a body, beyond the point of tolerance of pain or beyond the point of measurable brain activity.

As a first world country, we do an amazing job of keeping people going physically, but we are truly lousy at providing any quality of life. We interfere with the life/death cycle by using extreme medical measures when, under normal circumstances, the person would just pass on to a better place. (As in the case of extremely premature babies...)

It was a logical step in the progress of man overall that we had to become a "right-to-die" society. We had to preserve the individual's right to hold up his hand and say, "No, I don't want chemotherapy." or "Never put me on a respirator".

It didn't take long for the greedy ones to step in and start calling something as simple as a feeding tube or an IV or rehabilitative therapy 'extreme medical intervention'. By doing so they were able to eliminate lives ahead of schedule to avoid draining their resources or their inheritances (materialism run amok!). And the churches and the people unknowingly sat back and let a few immoral judges make this leap into a new "death culture".

Once this radical new "death culture" was established, hospices began to spring up everywhere. It was natural. People dying and their loved ones are in an extremely emotionally vulnerable time of life. Once they are moved to hospice, they are easily persuaded to leave all their money to these death camps.

"But", you are screaming, "it is so much better now that there is hospice available!"

On the surface and in a few good small volunteer driven homes, perhaps you are right. But in the large death mills, non-profit or for-profit, it is all about advancing the theory that society needs to dump their "burdens".

Some religions, possibly with great foresight, will not allow any medical interference. Those of us who choose to accept the services of doctors need to acknowledge the risks that we are taking with this possibly unnatural level of interference.<

303 posted on 10/29/2003 7:23:41 PM PST by TaxRelief (Ask me about the connection between Socialism, Communism, Drug Warlords and Vodka.)
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Admin Moderator: Could you please explain why you (I assume it was you) would pull this thread OUT of Activism/News/Chapters? And what would you suggest for the future?

For more explanation, I had FreepMail with the originator around noon today, who replied this...

I dont' understand why it would get pulled from there. Teri's fight IS activism and news! Perhaps if you sent a note to the moderator explaining what we're trying to do keeping Terry News and activism focused primarily on one thread. I would do it, but I think it would be more effective coming from someone else since I am the one who originally posted the thread.

My comments to HIM included the following...

I like what you (SL) are doing, but I don't like what has happened to the Terri's thread(s)

When I goto F.R. I always start out at "Latest Threads"
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/browse?ao=1

And along my right side, I see three summaries...
Activism/News/Chapters
Breaking News
Front Page News
I already know the DEFAULT conditions also include (Extended News, Editorial, Free Republic, and Announcements)

I almost never read or visit threads posted in other areas, as I feel they are of lesser importance. I think a huge number of others treat these the same way.

As a result, I don't even like POSTING to threads that aren't in one of those 3 categories (and I usually avoid older threads that have scrolled off the initial page)

I see you started out todays Terri's Fight (Daily Thread) in the Activism/News/Chapter but someone (moderator?) yanked it, assuming it was UNRELATED to activism/news. (I see there still ARE older activism threads in that summary)

I think it is critical to stay in one of those three categories, so if necessary, please rename the daily thread from now on, something that wont get yanked... Suggestions:
      Terri's Army -latest news -October 29,2003
or maybe even MORE yank-resistant:
      Terri's Activists -latest news -October 29,2003

Thanks!
FLE

334 posted on 10/29/2003 8:14:18 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: sweetliberty
More stories from today:
Doctor Says Terri Schiavo Likely Victim of 'Some Kind of Trauma' Dr. Baden

Schiavo Lawyers Challenge 'Terri's Law'

Death by Dehydration: The Terri Schindler-Schiavo Case - Michael Arnold Glueck and Robert J. Cihak

Look Who Is, and Isn't, a Civil Rights Activist in Schiavo Case

New Jersey Fires 'Incompetent' Social Workers for Letting Boys Starve

337 posted on 10/29/2003 8:26:04 PM PST by JustPiper (RIP Freeper Lynne - God loves you! You are our angel now!)
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Many links on this site:

TampaBayOnline - Special Reports - The Terri Schiavo Case

Lawyers Challenge Constitutionality of 'Terri's Law'

359 posted on 10/29/2003 9:04:16 PM PST by windchime
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To: sweetliberty; EternalVigilance
Here's my suggestion for changes to the description at the top of these daily threads....

This thread will serve as a place for posting all new GENERAL or REFERENCE information, along with LINKS regarding Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information and prayers.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS, or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it MAXIMUM EXPOSURE. (and then add a mention of it here). I will update this thread daily during the week and on Friday nights for the weekends for as long as we need to.

391 posted on 10/29/2003 11:51:17 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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Terri has a STATE forced G.A.L coming up soon, and most of us have felt that would be a godsend event. Now I'm NOT SO SURE.

Terri ALREADY HAD a G.A.L, and Greer ignored, then dismissed him! I'm not so sure the next one will be as pro-Terri as the one she just had!

I stumbled on this info earlier today and copied it to my hard drive. Then later could not find WHERE (on F.R.) I had seen it, nor confirm who exatly had originally posted it. (my thanks to whomever that was... If anyone knows please link to that first posting)


Richard L. Pearse Jr, Attorney at Law
Florida Bar No. 282723
Previous Guardian Ad Litem for Terri Schiavo

Part I
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Will PM you all my information on Richard Pearse Jr, the attorney that was appointed to be Guardian ad litem for Terri several years ago. Attorney Pearse, (he offices in Clearwater) who was recommended to the Court's by George Felos, wrote a 10 page brief for the Court after his independent evaluation and effectively sided with Terri's Family against Michael.

Felos then got Legally Blind Judge Greer to ignore the entire report and presentation by licensed Attorney Pearse! in the 2000 trial(1)

Attorney Pearse got pissed and told Greer either to let him do his job or be excused as Guardian ad litem. Greer excused Pearse on George Felos advice, and a new Guardian ad litem was NEVER reappointed for Terri, again at Felos recommendation to the Court.

Terri has gone for years without a Guardian ad litem to protect her interest against Michael and Felos and Legally Blind Judge Greer has allowed it! Attorney Pearse has to protect his license to practice law before the Florida Board and Attorney Pearse has to follow the law. That is why he asked to be excused from the case when Judge Greer was effectively letting George Felos act as Judge in this case, in my humble opinion! The whole thing is just one more giant sham in Judge Greer's court room and in this case, in my humble opinion.

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(1) It is reported, Judge Greer cannot legally drive a car because of his lack of eye sight for Goss sakes. How does the Judge read all these very detailed court offered documents, by expert witnesses, in order to render proper Judicial process and decisions. - NO, in order to make a Judicial decision to effectively execute a severly disabled person by starvation, in my humble opinion.

Part II (This is from a colleague)

I am on a short schedule today, but here is some of the information I pieced together, from a substantial amount received from another forum member for review, regarding Richard Pearse, Attorney at Law who was Guardian Ad Litem (GAL) for Terri Schiavo at one time. Late tonight I will address all this information in full – Ed

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In Short - WHAT IS GOING ON HERE ?!:

Everyone is talking about a new appointed GAL, when the previous GAL's findings were totally ignored. What is this, a "fish until you win" venture on the part of George Felos and his client Michael Schiavo!?

GAL Richard L Pearse, Jr., Attorney at Law was suddenly dismissed after filing his report in which he stated that it was his opinion that:

(1). Michael Schiavo was not a suitable guardian due to his standing to gain financially and

(2). The possibility of rehabilitation for Terri was too great to advocate any kind of Exit Protocol.

George Felos is the one who asked for a GAL in the first place! Felos doesn't like what he hears so he gets Judge Greer, who is legally blind per news reports, to totally quash this experts testimony. THIS IS CRAZY!

ATTORNEY PEARSE NEEDS TO BE CONTACTED IMMEDIATELY – HE IS EASY TO CONTACT PER BELOW:

October 24, 2003 – News Article

An independent guardian has not served in the Schiavo case since 1999, when Clearwater attorney Richard Pearse Jr. issued a report recommending Michael Schiavo not be allowed to disconnect Terri Schiavo's feeding tube among a number of other matters.

PEARSE SAID IN AN INTERVIEW LAST WEEK HE MADE THAT DETERMINATION BECAUSE MICHAEL SCHIAVO STOOD TO BENEFIT FINANCIALLY FROM HIS WIFE'S DEATH BY INHERITING ABOUT $750,000 IN A MEDICAL TRUST FUND.

HERE'S SOME PIECED TOGETHER INFO: - Some information is repetitive

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RICHARD, L PEARSE, JR - FLORIDA ATTORNEY AT LAW,

GUARDIAN AD LITEM FOR TERRI SCHIAVO - AT ONE POINT IN THIS LITIGATION

In June 1998, soon after Michael asked the court for permission to remove Terri's feeding tube, the court appointed Richard L. Pearse, Jr. Attorney at Law as Terri's Guardian Ad Litem (GAL). Pearse's job was to investigate the facts of Terri's case and represent her interests in court. He issued a 10-page report in Dec. 1998 on his finding, and also in January 2000 testified on his findings before Judge Greer.

Ironically, at the beginning of the case in 1998, it was Attorney George Felos who requested an independent guardian for Terri Schiavo and recommended Richard Pearse Jr, Attorney at Law.

At a January 2000 trial, Pearse concluded that he had not found clear and convincing evidence that Terri would have rejected life support. He said she should be kept alive and questioned Michael's Schiavo's credibility.

Pearse urged in no uncertain terms that the petition for removing the feeding tube be denied. He made it clear that he did not believe Schiavo's sudden recollection of Terri's wishes.

Pearse stated "Regarding the pending petition filed by Mr.Michael Schiavo to withdraw the gastric feeding tube which sustains the ward (Terri), (ward = Terri throughout) Mr. Schiavo claims that the ward (Terri) told him after their marriage that she would not want to be kept alive artificially,"

Pearse wrote, "Mr. Schiavo indicated strongly to me (Attorney Pearse) that his petition to withdraw life support has nothing to do with the money held in the guardianship estate, which he would inherit upon the ward's (Terri's) death as her sole heir-in-law."

Pearce continued: "The only direct evidence probative of the issue of the ward's (Terri's) intent is Mr. Schiavo's hearsay testimony regarding removal the ward's feeding tube which would inevitably result in her death" However, his credibility is necessarily adversely affected by the obvious financial benefit to him in the event of her death while still married to him. Her death also permits him to "get on" with his life, as Mr. Schiavo stated during questioning."

Per Attorney Pearse's Report - "Since there is no corroborative evidence of the ward's (Terri's) intentions, and since the only witness claiming to have such evidence is the one person who will realize a direct and substantial financial benefit from the ward's death, the undersigned guardian ad litem is of the opinion that the evidence of the ward's (Terri's) intentions developed by the investigation, DOES NOT MEET THE CLEAR AND CONVINCING STANDARD."< In his report, Pearse said Michael Schiavo was not a credible witness to his wife's end-of-life wishes because he waited years before coming forward with the claim that she wanted to die. Pearse also noted that Michael Schiavo would benefit financially from her death and be able to "move on with his life" in Mr Schiavo's words.

Pearse stated that after Michael Schiavo received the malpractice settlement, "HE HAS A CHANGE OF HEART CONCERNING FURTHER TREATMENT OF HIS WIFE,". Pearse, noting that Schiavo would benefit financially if his wife died, recommended that the feeding tube remain.

That Michael Schiavo's attitude and actions changed as soon as the money from the malpractice suit was in the bank was not lost in Pearse's Expert Court Appointed Review. – (News Report Comment)

Per Attorney Pearse - "From that point forward, the ward's husband has isolated the ward from her parents, has on at least one occasion refused to consent for the ward to be treated for an infection, and, ultimately, four years later, has filed the instant petition for the withdrawal of life support on the basis of evidence apparently known only to him which could have been asserted at any time during the ward's illness," he said.

Attorney Pearse said he was "troubled by the fact that Michael waited until 1998 to petition to remove the feeding tube, even though he claims to have known her wishes all along, and that he waited until he won a malpractice suit based on a professed desire to take care of her into old age".

Pearse continued: As her husband, Michael would inherit what is left of her malpractice award, originally $700,000, which is held in a trust fund administered by the court. Accounting of the fund is sealed. BUT MICHAEL'S LAWYER, GEORGE FELOS, SAID MOST OF IT HAS BEEN SPENT ON LEGAL FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CUSTODY DISPUTE.

Pearse also said he did not find Joan and Scott Schiavo's testimony credible.<<<<<<<<<<<<<

* * INTERESTING - By the time the case came to trial in Jan. 2000, Michael Schiavo had found two witnesses to corroborate his version of Terri's wishes: Scott Schiavo, his brother, and Joan Schiavo, a sister-in-law. When Pearse initially became involved in 1998 Michael had NO OTHER WITNESSES TO HIS STORY * * .

Pearse stated "One of the interesting and ironic aspects of this case is that all of the parties have portrayed themselves as representing her interests," he said. "It's always desirable that a person in Terri's position have an independent representative who has no particular interest in the case other than Terri." (THIS IS STANDARD JUDICIAL PROCEDURE IN CASES LIKE THIS – PARTICULARLY WITH THE LACK OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN FAMILY MEMBERS. – Ed)

Pearse recommended that a guardian ad litem (not necessarily himself) be appointed to protect Terri's interests on a go-forward basis.

Charging Pearse was "biased", Felos promptly had Pearse removed as guardian ad litem. No one was appointed in his place by Judge Greer.

GEORGE FELOS RECOMMENDED A GUARDIAN AD LITEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. FELOS DIDN'T LIKE WHAT THE EXPERT WITNESS ATTORNEY PEARSE HAD TO SAY, THEN HAD JUDGE GREER REMOVE PEARSE AND NULLIFY THIS EXPERT WITNESSES TESTIMONY – IS THIS DUE PROCESS AND PROPER ETHICAL STANDARDS REQUIRED OF A FLORIDA JUDGE ?! WHAT IS GOING ON HERE! - ED

Greer accepted their testimony as "creditable and reliable." .......(This is inferior to "clear and convincing" required in Attorney Pearse's expert report, and clearly would have been the prudent requirement under Florida Law for the Judge to require in these unusual circumstances - Ed.

Judge Greer also dismissed the criticism that "Michael Schiavo has not acted in good faith by waiting eight plus years" to file his petition. "THAT ASSERTION HARDLY SEEMS WORTHY OF COMMENT," GREER SAID.

GREER RULED IN MICHAEL SCHIAVO'S FAVOR.

Other Added Info:

Pearse stated in this report - "Since there is no corroborative evidence of the ward's (Terri's) intentions, and since the only witness claiming to have such evidence is the one person who will realize a direct and substantial financial benefit from the ward's death, the undersigned guardian ad litem is of the opinion that the evidence of the ward's intentions developed by the investigation, DOES NOT MEET THE CLEAR AND CONVINCING STANDARD."<< THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT LEGAL WORDS - ED

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

The Schindlers had contacted a woman Michael dated in 1991 who told them Michael had confessed to her he did not know what Terri would want. Although the woman refused to sign an affidavit, it bought the Schindlers some time.

And with it, they found Trudy Capone.

A former co-worker of Michael's, Capone signed an affidavit on May 9, 2001, stating "Michael confided in me all the time about Terri ...He said to me many times that he had no idea what her wishes were."

Attorney Patricia Anderson, who began representing the Schindlers in 2001, said the failure to replace Pearse has hindered the parents' case because Michael Schiavo, as Terri's legal guardian, controls her medical care and even her visitors.

The parents' hands are tied in terms of what evidence they could present," she said, "because they didn't have access to Terri. They're not even permitted to know if she's been running a temperature. If a guardian ad litem had been appointed, it would have been a different story."


393 posted on 10/30/2003 12:39:55 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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If Terri is ever allowed to get any REAL therapy, I think she might do well with an experimental procedure that is getting more and more common.

And that is... Re-growing damaged parts of an organ using harvested stem cells from her own body. Sounds kooky? Well it IS HAPPENING elsewhere.

It first made major headlines in Detroit's Beaumont (sp?) hospital early this year, where a 16-year old had half of his heart die from a nail-gun accident. The boy was certain to die unless he got a transplant, which was not looking likely.

Instead, doctors there were allowed to do a humanitarian use of an experimental procedure that worked well. (I'm recalling these details from memory)

Doctors gave the teenager drugs for 3 weeks I believe, to help his body stimulate new stem-cell production in his bone marrow. Then they harvested much of that marrow and extracted and concentrated his stem cells.

Then they inserted a catheter, and fed it thru arteries as close as possible to the damaged areas of his heart, and at that point released his stem cells back into his own body.

Most of those stem cells deposited into the area of the organ damage, and relatively soon (a week or two I believe) regrew the damaged areas of his heart!

I understand this technique is expected to work in practically any area of the body, including areas of brain damage. Terri is still young enough to respond well to this increased stem cell production, harvesting, and replanting.

(...but first, we've GOT to get her AWAY from Michael's death grip!!!!)

396 posted on 10/30/2003 1:18:47 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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This is phenomenal, sweetliberty. Thanks!
415 posted on 10/30/2003 6:46:01 AM PST by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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