To: jonalvy44
You people are exactly what's wrong with this country. In case you've forgotten one of our basic rights as people is FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Now that someone doesn't say something that fits into your opinion you want to shut him out. I've read most of Michael Moore's work and the fact is, is that he is an American and has a right to his own opinion. You don't like it Fine then say that but you can't use your hatred of his ideas and opinions as a front for American Patriotism. If this is the kind of people that pollute our country no wonder everyone thinks of us in such poor standards. You think the Russians we're the sheep for following Stalin, well guess what everything that Bush seems to say doesn't meet an offensive; at least the amount that it needs. We seem to be baaaing along with the best of them because we don't seem to question anything anymore. And if you do your labled as unAmerican, unpatriotic, or even worse treasonous if you have opinions of your own. So ladies and gentlemen this is my opinion: you people that seem to want to shut everyone up are the ones that are UN-PATRIOTIC AND UN-AMERICAN not me and certainly not Michael Moore.
25 posted on
12/15/2003 8:58:51 AM PST by
Lee05
(Our FREEDOMS have no limits and can't be pushed away by others. They are essential!)
To: Lee05
You people are exactly what's wrong with this country. In case you've forgotten one of our basic rights as people is FREEDOM OF SPEECH. UGH!!!! We may shut out Michael Moore all we want as consumers and decent human beings...read your Bill of Rights again and tell me if that applies to us as well, k?
26 posted on
12/15/2003 9:03:48 AM PST by
smith288
("The United States has a system of taxation by confession." - Hugo Black,Supreme Court Justice)
To: Lee05
Zot alert!
27 posted on
12/15/2003 9:05:30 AM PST by
Poser
To: Lee05
We are going to curtail your Freedom of Speech.
BWUHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!
...its a pretty easy process to understand. Go to DemocraticUnderground.com and just post one thing like "Bush rules" and see how long you last there too.
28 posted on
12/15/2003 9:06:59 AM PST by
smith288
("The United States has a system of taxation by confession." - Hugo Black,Supreme Court Justice)
To: Lee05
I've read most of Michael Moore's work and the fact is, is that he is an American and has a right to his own opinion. You don't like it Fine then say that but you can't use your hatred of his ideas and opinions as a front for American Patriotism.Hi, Lee, and welcome to the forum. I hope you recognize that the right to freedom of speech applies to us just as much as it does to you and that hate-filled, slobbering, obese joke of a human being Michael Moore.
30 posted on
12/15/2003 9:09:08 AM PST by
Coop
(God bless our troops!)
To: jonalvy44; dighton; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart; smith288; Constitution Day
You people are exactly what's wrong with this country. "You people" are cordially invited to witness the latest in high-voltage equipment...
31 posted on
12/15/2003 9:11:00 AM PST by
general_re
(Knife goes in, guts come out! That's what Osaka Food Concern is all about!)
To: Lee05
Do you know what ZOT means?
33 posted on
12/15/2003 9:14:35 AM PST by
Constitution Day
(Iraqi blogger to President Bush: "The bones in the mass graves salute you, Avenger of the Bones.")
To: Lee05
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. That is absolutely true, and no one on this board would question that for a second.
That having been said, there are two caveats to this statement.
First: All opinions are not equal. My opinion on heart surgery or supersonic jet aircraft design, for instance, are of no value whatsoever. Treating them as pertinent or useful is a waste of time.
An uninformed opinion is wasted breath. Don't be surprised or offended if no one takes your ignorant bleating seriously.
Second: Some opinions are anti-American or unpatriotic, even if they are held by people who claim to be patriotic Americans. Michael Moore says many things that are openly anti-American, and then cries foul when he gets called on it, as if by stating an opinion, no one can criticize it. If you're going to express an opinion, be prepared for other people to express back. The First Amendment works both ways.
34 posted on
12/15/2003 9:18:30 AM PST by
Steel Wolf
(There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.)
To: Lee05
In case you've forgotten one of our basic rights as people is FREEDOM OF SPEECH. That's right and no, no one forgot.
Now that someone doesn't say something that fits into your opinion you want to shut him out.
Yes, that's called using our economic power. If I don't like something then I don't have to purchase it or watch it, listen to it, etc.
The libs are all for protests and shutting down "the man" except when it's thier man.
35 posted on
12/15/2003 9:21:13 AM PST by
retrokitten
(It's true! I'm a rage-aholic! I'm addicted to rage-ahol! -Homer Simpson)
To: Lee05; dighton; aculeus; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; hellinahandcart
VARMINT CONG ALERT!!!Mooronicus Constipationia Trollium subspecies
36 posted on
12/15/2003 10:20:27 AM PST by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
To: Lee05
So, I guess we can assume that you made the same argument with respect to Dr. Laura and all of the other conservative speakers in the public forum?
37 posted on
12/15/2003 10:22:13 AM PST by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
To: Lee05
Go back to your puppet parade, Junior.
38 posted on
12/15/2003 10:25:30 AM PST by
Jhensy
To: Lee05
Moore certainly has a right to speak up. This thread is about his hypocracy, for my money. This is a guy who shows up in people's offices without appointments, who sticks cameras in unsuspecting people's faces and he won't appear in anyone else's documentary. LOL! Bask in the hypocracy.
Also, we can easilly point out his use of lies and propaganda, since we also have a right to free speech.
39 posted on
12/15/2003 10:30:03 AM PST by
breakem
To: Lee05
BWHAHAHAHA
People choosing to speak with their pocket books is not a abridgment of the 1st Amendment.
Nobody is asking that Moore be incarcerated or have the Government somehow shut him down.
The fact that you want us to shut up and listen to insanity, never to make our points known by PROTESTING Moore make you Un American.
You have a FREEDOM TO SPEECH -NOT- A FREEDOM TO BE HEARD.
40 posted on
12/15/2003 10:30:03 AM PST by
CyberCowboy777
(I don't know... But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking... don't they?)
To: Lee05
You dumber than a box of rocks.
Freedom of speech is the freedom to say anything you wish IN PUBLIC so long as it is not slanderous or against the law in some other way.
Nobody has the right to say anything they wish in a private venue.
Why are people who disturb the peace of a play or movie thrown out? Because they do not have the free speech rights to say anything they please in a private venue. Unless you have something that a private company wants to show, you won't be seen on tv or in the movies.
I am not given airtime on the evening news to say whatever I please. If the news director liked what I had to say and decided to give me a commentary, they would give me such. But, there is no inherent right for me to be heard except in the ways available to all Americans in public.
And Michael Moore only will be heard if the theater owners want him to be heard. Many won't show it just because it is a documentary; there are too many movies to start showing every documentary that is produced.
The public certainly has a right to use their free speech in public (calling theaters, writing them etc.) to ask the to refrain from allowing Moore's film to be shown. That is not an attack on Moore's free speech because nobody has the right to be shown in a theater just because you make a film.
48 posted on
06/20/2004 9:36:29 PM PDT by
rwfromkansas
("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
To: Lee05
You are right, we do have freedom of speech, and that allows any American patriot "sheep" to point out loud and clear when and how Michael Moore lies, and put the proof out there to back up our free speech. It also allows us patriots to wax analytical on the reason and thinking process that allows Moore to LIE, and if anyone decides to no longer associate with Moore because of our free speech, well, it's a free country. Too bad.
To: Lee05
I've read most of Michael Moore's work....
52 posted on
06/20/2004 9:47:36 PM PDT by
Lijahsbubbe
(Kofi is an ex wiener vendor)
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